I went from running a small corporation to working for a mega-corporation - I will refer to them as The Borg. It was awful. The manipulations I saw on all levels of many projects was appalling. Watching project management in action in a major EPC entity was eyeopening. Realizing that this was standard procedure throughout the EPC industry was disheartening, EPC is how many large facilities are built, like power plants, refineries, chemical production facilities, I could go on and on. Being able to now filter business news realizing what those terms meant has colored my views of American, no, global business practices. Kathy, I'm sure not all corporate America is corrupt, but I think a large portion of it is. So what, we are employed by them? That somehow excuses lousy business practices? I don't think so. That's sort of saying 'everyone does it' to your parents - what would their reaction be? Ethics are simple, there's really no way to deviate from them without becoming corrupt. That corruption permeates the whole business world in one form or another. It has to go, but I'm afraid it's too ingrained now - which will ultimately lead to even more corruption. Not a good direction to be headed in.