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« on: November 15, 2009, 03:43:38 AM »

I live in Thailand.  English is really not used. The local industry uses the Taiwanese Bee Box which is a very commercial approach to extracting honey and wax.

I would like to try with a Langstroth Hive and see what happens.  It seems very popular in the States, Europe and Australia. There has to be a reason why they are not used here ....  so I need to find out ...

There are many places on the Internet where a single pdf page may be found and downloaded which shows the hive.  Personally I find this a bit confusing and not in my wildest dreams can I imagine explaining this to a Thai woodworker who does not know what a Langstroth hive is.

Does anyone know where I can find a detailed cutting list since this may be an easier approach?  The idea is that if all the parts are listed then it is only cutting them and then putting them together.  What could possibly go wrong?
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 06:21:35 AM »

I live in Thailand.  English is really not used. The local industry uses the Taiwanese Bee Box which is a very commercial approach to extracting honey and wax.

I would like to try with a Langstroth Hive and see what happens.  It seems very popular in the States, Europe and Australia. There has to be a reason why they are not used here ....  so I need to find out ...

There are many places on the Internet where a single pdf page may be found and downloaded which shows the hive.  Personally I find this a bit confusing and not in my wildest dreams can I imagine explaining this to a Thai woodworker who does not know what a Langstroth hive is.

Does anyone know where I can find a detailed cutting list since this may be an easier approach?  The idea is that if all the parts are listed then it is only cutting them and then putting them together.  What could possibly go wrong?





Go here

http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yourself/10-frame-langstroth-barry-birkey/
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 07:12:17 AM »

ok.... just went there, thank you.

I do not quite understand everything though.  Imperial measurements are not too common so I will need to convert but that is not an issue.

How do the bees get in?   Do you make a hole in the hive body or is there space when the hive body sits on top of the bottom board?  looks like the bottom board is larger which could leave a 3/8 slot of the whole width.  Here with the Taiwanese box there are two small slots only which increases hive security.

Since the bottom board and the hive body are the same width, how do they lock together?  Or does one just sit on top of the other and simply not move due to the weight?

Presumably the plywood on the inner cover is fitted in a similar way that the board on the bottom board fits onto the frame?  (so a slot needs to be cut in the middle of the frame).

Sorry for the basic questions but explaining to the woodworker will be very detailed and very fundamental ...
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 08:00:54 AM »

Yes, when the hive is placed on the bottom board, there is a space between them, which is open all the way across in the summer time, and there is an entrance reducer, which is inserted in the winter time, to decrease the size of the opening, and keep mice out  http://www.brushymountainbeefarm.com/10-Frame-Entrance-Reducer/productinfo/673/
on the site with the langstroth plans, there are also plans for a bottom board, as well as other items.

Go here  Go here  Go here  http://www.brushymountainbeefarm.com/downloads/2009CatalogWeb.pdf

down load this, it will help you understand products we use in the Langston hive  Go here

http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yourself/10-frame-langstroth-barry-birkey/

https://products.kelleybees.com/wtkprod/

https://www.dadant.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=25

http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yourself/10-frame-langstroth-barry-birkey/


down load this, it will help you understand products we use in the Langston hive  Go here

http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yourself/10-frame-langstroth-barry-birkey/

https://products.kelleybees.com/wtkprod/

https://www.dadant.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=25

http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yourself/10-frame-langstroth-barry-birkey/


down load this, it will help you understand products we use in the Langston hive  Go here

http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yourself/10-frame-langstroth-barry-birkey/

https://products.kelleybees.com/wtkprod/

https://www.dadant.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=25

http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yourself/10-frame-langstroth-barry-birkey/
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 08:25:20 AM »

This will help you

http://www.metric-conversions.org/length/inches-to-millimeters.htm
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 08:29:57 AM »

or this

http://www.onlineconversion.com/length_common.htm
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2009, 09:39:39 PM »

The Brushy Mountain catalog is really fascinating reading.  The bee keeping world is hugely different in this part of the planet.  You have so many tools / accessories / ......

Yes, the illustrations of hives are very helpful, they do help explain how this is all approached. 

It looks as if the hive body and super will sit on top of each other without locking together.  I guess that hives are not moved about much if that is the case.

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2009, 09:42:38 PM »

You are correct in that normally they are just stacked one on top of the other.  The weight combined with the bees sticking things together with propolis along with a rock on top keeps things from going anywhere.  If the hive are to be moved it is common to connect each component with hive staples or to strap the entire hive together with ratchet straps or both.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2009, 09:50:06 PM »

Thank you .....  the picture is starting to come together.
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2009, 09:12:20 PM »

PLease post a picture of a Taiwanese Bee Box.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2009, 12:15:58 AM »

If You watch this video you should have a pretty good idea how the langstroth beehive works.  It is long but worth watching.

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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2009, 03:42:58 PM »

Would you share measurements or plans for your local hive type? I'm sort of a collector (and I'll build one and put it on my World Beehives site.)
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2009, 04:56:45 PM »

Would you share measurements or plans for your local hive type? I'm sort of a collector (and I'll build one and put it on my World Beehives site.)

Racehorse, who are you addressing this too? It appears you are in alaska, and you should know our system, and if you are adressing it to expatcm, no doubt demensions would not do you any good if his local hives are of different designs, without diagrams, and/or pictures.
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2009, 05:38:15 PM »

Would you share measurements or plans for your local hive type? I'm sort of a collector (and I'll build one and put it on my World Beehives site.)

Racehorse, who are you addressing this too? It appears you are in alaska, and you should know our system, and if you are adressing it to expatcm, no doubt demensions would not do you any good if his local hives are of different designs, without diagrams, and/or pictures.

Oops, sorry, yes, I address the question to expatcm. Just dimensions are fine. Most of the hive types I'm building are being built from textual descriptions only with dimensions. It has proven very difficult to find construction plans for hive types other than Langstroth, Modified Dadant and Warre. I'm pretty good at figuring things out from just dimensions and a text description, though.
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2009, 07:50:56 AM »

Just tried to upload an image.  Nothing doing ....  I guess due to my Internet connection but perhaps a tif image is not accepted.  The host appears to be ImageShack.us and not this site though.  I will try a bit later to optimize the image, perhaps a jpg will be easier....

Racehorse ....  no problem in giving dimensions but what do you want to see?  I can do this in a day or two.
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2009, 08:41:19 AM »

I have made a second attempt.  ImageShack loads eventually but needs registration and $8 a month.  No way.  If anyone wants the image of the Taiwanese Bee Box ...  no problem ....  send me a private message through the forum and I will email a copy back to you. 
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