Oh... I was using numbers based on Apollo Mission speed, the speed at which we moved to the moon, I realise we can go a FEW PERCENT FASTER than that realistically - I would be surprised if see "point of no return" speeds barely over 30,000 an hour. That is a lot of fuel needed to get a HUMAN HABITAT the top speeds we can successfully speed to that point through thrust usage - that leaves little fuel for the craft, this remaining feul for all maneuvering the spit through space, with likely only enough ful to make a few hunded course corrections before no thuster fuel will be left in the tanks.
Oh, my opinon, without doing the math, even speeds 10X the speed what I think is a liberal maximum speed, I beieve we wouldn't see BUT a FEW SECONDS difference in our watched both here on Earth and the time aboard the speeding craft which reach its destination and it takes 210 thousands years from now a call is recieved from the ship, they have arrived. But that message was sent 105 thosand years ago (for those of you liking to throw LIGHT YEARS around as a standard for speed).
i just read, we did see real speed of 25,400 mph as Appolo 10 sling-shot around the darkside of the moon.
I would rather base my time in YEARS not light years, I don't live in light years, my years are detirmine by the revoltionary time as my planet circles rotates around its sun. THAT is a long enough measuring stick I want to use: somemore math here (between mph/years/light years - "let's say" That length of your stick in your hand indicating your 1 EARTH YEAR of 365 days, this ruler stick is 3 feet long. It scales ONE EARTH YEAR OF TIME.... YOUR RULER would be the length of Mars and back long to describe how far you have gone using your 3 ft stick in your hand, which again show MY MAXIMUM THRUST GUEST SPEED OPINIONS and how short a distance we actually traveled in human years.
I find it funny and cool how we say that people traveling faster, supposedly no to exceed lights speed - I say why isn't light speed on another colorwheel we have only just no started to discover. But if you send a deepspace ship out today, I will follow the newstories, but it will never be seen by human kind, nor will they get there (and hopefully the find somewhere to TERRA PLANET some distant planet on a hopefully VIABLE planet or moon to land their ship on (ideally) or have to launch bio-sphere for our DISTANT DISTAND ANCENTORS who never knew of us - except for Youtube, that will probably be still up - lol.
I just don't believe our HUMAN EARTH BOUND residents will be civilized, let known still occupy and the ground we call the USA and its very radified government will start thalking to us, but it is (according to me - 4.37 light years AKA 30,000 mph TIMES 210 thousand years of time for an AUDIO SIGNAL TO GET BACK AND FORTH.
Imagine this conversation by these two stangers 210 thousand years from now. "What's new" Reply "Not much" "How about you replies, with an answer "Not bad" - that conversation would take 13.2 LIGHT YEARS.
I have to assume, there are turely on their own, there is a pont a hundred years from now that some health issue would kill off a a percentage of the inhabitants, and us with all the flu shots here and unable to get it to them.
About PARTICLE DEBREE in space, it is a serious issue with countless mirco pieces of space dust, to debree the size of cities flinging and we have to dodge them by slowing down to let it lass before us - scrubbing all speed off the vehicle to the safe point where the ship can return to previos speed, or you can change course to avoid collision and then spend fuel returning to privious flight.
I totally agree, lets spend that money (cause the goverment only gives NASA so much a year) Lets take the 20 to 30 billion over 5 years to make a ships that get us around our solar systems - in most cases landing on moons (remember that moons (like ours) has grea temerature changes, They do indeed have months based on their planet they satelite. Taking use of what sun and temperaures they have to work with. Building a bio-derm won't be to long an ordeal - good luck with the whole habability thing. Let's see if we can grow anything in the solid we try to terraform.
I agree with (loose phrase) of Einstein is "I don't know what the third woeld war will be fought with, but the forth will be fought with Sticks and Stones!" I fear humanity not here before we ever get anywhere substancial in space. But coming soon should be a NEW evolution of species, the one that takes over humans. As you look at the "ape to man graph" and nothing even suggests that graph stop there.
I believe some day that homosapian women give birth to a new bread of child who will evolve into the new species at puberty. All of a sudden, an entire of generation, our chlidred will all rise and wipe out the current human race - lets face it, I always heard we were born when previous man was still hear - did they just come up from the ground or come from the human race - so birthing children is the likely way a new species enters our world, they are our babies.
Enough, I could go on forever, it is a great topic.
Dang it, one more thing. in 2012, our Milkly way alights with the center of many other Galaxies - try to imagne that, something as big as the Milkyway Galaxy, so far away from other galaxies will align nearly like the tunblers in a safe. Imagine a CRAFT from another distant galaxy, a third the way across the Universe - somehow creates technolgy to use that allows them to SKIP ontop or through the alignment and show up here in a few years. That alignment isn't just a few second long, it is a GALACTIC RESET of our CLOCK, it has been 25000 years since that last happen, basical December 21, 2012 we are taking down an old calendar, we put up a new 25000 year calander. As Planets, Earth moves at 1500 mph as it moves around the sun daily, as it roates 1 time. Now image a galaxy with 100 billion stars, all rotating around each other within a galaxy, and everything revolves around everything else, and ES, everything has a cycle, sometime extremely complicated intertwining of solar systens making their way arond galaxys. I have always wanted to know what object (lets say a galaxy) I wonder how FAST it is moving through space - I can't image a galaxy flying though space at millions of miles PER second.