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« on: October 05, 2009, 02:13:11 PM »

thought i'd mow down the blackberries the morning.  didn't remember the yellowjackets love to nest in the ground under them.  i will be paying for this for days sad.  still debating on going to the hospital.........
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2009, 03:15:57 PM »

Is anyone else around, Kathy?  Be careful!
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 03:30:55 PM »

left you a note on fb. already scouted a neighbor in case i have to go in.  hubby calls with annoying frequency to check on me.   evil  the benadry is not making me sleepy yet, so it must still be blocking the histamines.  boy am i going to be attractive tomorrow.

the tongue swell is really a PIA.  it would be a good excuse for ice cream, but i don't have any sad
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2009, 03:35:13 PM »

Good Lord Kathy... what a nightmare! How many times did you get stung? I hope you monitor yourself closely, it's really nothing to mess with and I hope you the best through it!

I'm guessing there's a YJ nest not long for this world!
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2009, 03:49:35 PM »

Forget about the blackberries, the only thing that would make that better for me would be the gasoline treatment for the yj.  The gasoline and match on a stick treatment that is.... rolleyes  And not when high on benedryl either.

Ouch.  Hope it goes well for you.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2009, 05:52:16 PM »

Kathy, I've learned that if I'm debating on if I should go to the hospital I probally should go ahead and go. 

Although, i tend to avoid medical treatment at all costs, as it is cost prohibitive for me.  $2500 deductible.. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2009, 07:36:58 PM »

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Oh yeh....sorry 'bout the stings Kathy....Also.....If I mow my blackbwerries down will they make more berries next year? this year hardly produced any blackberries.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2009, 07:43:46 PM »

Johnny, sent you a PM!
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2009, 07:44:22 PM »

Oh man sorry to hear about the YJ nest.  I have been there and done a similar thing back when I was in high school thats when I found out that I needed to carry an eppi pen.  Good luck and I would head over to the hospital if If were you.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2009, 07:51:30 PM »

i think i'm past the worst of it.  my feet are still swollen and i have a few hives, but the tongue swelling has gone down and the intense itching is past.

and yes, i should have gone in....  smiley

to this point, i have downed approximately 300mg of benadryl and only slept for 20 min.  that's a good indication that i was having a pretty big histamine dump!
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2009, 07:53:19 PM »

Wow, I guess!  I hope you feel better tomorrow, but I'm afraid you're going to be very itchy!
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2009, 10:13:22 PM »

Kathy, even if it's over, go to the doc and get an epi. The next time may only take one sting to be fatal.

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Scads, gasoline, yes. Fire, no...
The fumes will kill them for days. The fire will remove the fumes before it gets down to the queen and the hive will survive.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2009, 10:41:23 PM »

PM'd you also, JBF.

this was a most unpleasant experience.  it's also why i fully suit up when i work my bees! 

iddee, i have two epi-pens.  i had them by the couch but they have their own risk, so i didn't want to use them unless i really needed to. 

if anyone had reported to me the symptoms i had, i would have told them to go to the doc ASAP.  because i have set a bad example and posted it, i feel compelled to apologize and admonish others to not follow my example.

there is a fine line between a systemic reaction and anaphylaxis.  my BP never dropped.  my pulse never went up.  my breathing was never impaired.  those are the reasons i stayed home. 
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2009, 06:11:47 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2009, 08:49:50 AM »


Scads, gasoline, yes. Fire, no...
The fumes will kill them for days. The fire will remove the fumes before it gets down to the queen and the hive will survive.

I know... Wink  But if I was covered with stings, nothing would make me feel better than watching the little buggers fly flaming into the ground though.
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2009, 09:56:56 AM »

Kathy, glad it sounds like you are out of the water.  We sometimes do things that we wish that we didn't.  This has been the worst year I have ever in my 57 years of life known.  Everyone has been stung on multiple occasions.  They were very angry this year, probably because the numbers were so high, and perhaps a lack of sufficient food for all the creeps, who knows.  I have been stung several times, not even doing anything, just sitting there and they come and sting.  Go figure.  One landed on my thigh one day, thought I would be a smart whippersnapper and smacked it to kill it.  It died, but not after administering three great stings to my leg.  That hurt for hours and the itch remained for days and days.  Go figure again.  They have been horribly nasty.  I have had wasp traps hanging around the apiary, about 7 of them.  I have dumped and refilled these with diluted beer time and time again.  I have literally killed thousands and thousands of them, it kind of actually freaks me out to think of how hard the bees must have been working to ward off these nasties.  Take care girl.  You are fortunate that you have medical training, you know how to monitor your blood pressure and pulse.  Have that most awesomely great and wonderful day, with great health. Cindi
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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2009, 10:35:36 AM »

thanks cindi.  you are right, i think.  they have been very bad this year. we have stirred them up when we were out riding, they were all over when camping.  i have always had them at home, but this is the 3rd big nest of them i have found this year.

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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2009, 02:34:59 PM »

Kathy glad to hear your ok you take care now.
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2009, 03:47:26 PM »

Kathy I'm glad you are ok!  What an awful experience.  I got stung Sunday walking across the driveway, little bugger got me on the back of my heel 3-4 times before I squished it.  Still itches, you must be going nuts with the itching!  I think the hot dry summer really gave em a leg up on numbers they are everywhere, killed 3 nests already.  Had frost last night so should cut em down a bit.  Hope you are not miserable for very long!
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2009, 10:03:08 PM »

Glad they didn't kill you Kathy.


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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2009, 10:28:32 PM »

Glad your O K. I would take a honey bee sting any day over yellow jacket or hornets.
Remember, honey bees can sting only once per bee. Yellow jackets and most others can go as many times as they want. huh huh huh :)doak
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2009, 10:41:53 PM »

WOW what a story!! Glad you are ok  ninja
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2009, 10:44:46 PM »

Kathy - sorry to hear that you went through such pain, and am happy that you are now better.  Good to keep that epi pen close, but a trip to the ER sounds better than sitting in doubt and wonder on the couch.

If you don't mind - please PM me on Blackberry maintenance - as I started a patch last fall and haven't done anythink with it so far.

Again - wishing for a full and speedy recovery for you.
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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2009, 10:27:50 AM »

Man, I would certainly wonder if this was the year of the wasp/hornet/bald faced hornet.  Amongst the dead paper wasps in the wasp traps were about half as many bald faced hornets.  These are massively enormous insects, I know most of us know what these look like, but they are probably at least three times the size of the paper wasp.  They are uglieeee and I can't stand them.  Had too many experiences with angry bald faced hornets, when clearing bush. And man, when they are mad they are mad and they make a beeline straight for you.  I remember Ken one time saw one coming at him, and before he knew it, it blasted him right in the chest, where his shirt was open.  They are the worst and I don't think the honeybees would have had a chance to ward those off from coming into the colonies, so glad that I had the traps out.  The traps are still out, the wasps are still out, we have had a couple of light frosts, and it hasn't killed them yet.  Just waiting for that killing frost that I know for surely will come the end of this month.  Beautiful days, to love and live and enjoy, with awesome health.  Cindi
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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2009, 10:52:05 AM »

it was certainly a learning experience.

besides the obvious, i learned:

1.  having a conversation with yourself about how fast you can safely drive the tractor over rough ground is no substitute for bailing and running.

2. this old lady can still do a fast 50 yard dash

3.  50 yards is not far enough

4.  civilian life has not degraded my marine corps vocabulary. 
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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2009, 10:54:57 AM »

You didn't learn to let your husband mow the lawn???  Now, that was the first stupid mistake  Wink
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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2009, 11:20:06 AM »

it was certainly a learning experience.

besides the obvious, i learned:

1.  having a conversation with yourself about how fast you can safely drive the tractor over rough ground is no substitute for bailing and running.

2. this old lady can still do a fast 50 yard dash

3.  50 yards is not far enough

4.  civilian life has not degraded my marine corps vocabulary. 
Good one kathy golly ge that hurt grin
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« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2009, 12:00:03 PM »

I glad you are ok Kathy

But the next time you mow  down your blackberry
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2009, 12:23:24 PM »

Normally, I would say gasoline and a match, or perhaps my favorite weed burner would be required to eliminate the nest.  However, in this instance, to both eliminate the nest, and gain badly needed stress relief, I recommend one pound of FF black powder and a length of cannon fuse.  After all, there are very few personal problems that can't be solved with the appropriate use of high explosives....  evil
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1.  having a conversation with yourself about how fast you can safely drive the tractor over rough ground is no substitute for bailing and running.
2. this old lady can still do a fast 50 yard dash
3.  50 yards is not far enough
4.  civilian life has not degraded my marine corps vocabulary. 

Oh Kathy, you make that great smile come to my face and that inside laughing.  Since seeing those pictures of you and the horse the other day, your braided pony tail flyin' in the wind, boots whipping mud all over the place -- I have a much better idea of what this gal is capable of....and I can bet you really can still run that 50 yard dash, cursing and a'swearin' like a mad demon.....good for you, good on you, you go girl!!!  Keep on always being you, smiling.  Have that great and most awesomely wonderful day, love life, great health. Cindi
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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2009, 03:16:34 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2009, 06:04:55 PM »

close....red head gone gray.
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« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2009, 09:56:53 PM »

must be a ture blond ! to some thing like that stupid stupid stupid stupid

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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2009, 11:21:07 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2009, 10:32:40 AM »

Jp and you johnnybigfish I guess we can just sitback and watch the spark's fly as Kathy scrapes the meat off his bones with a dull knife grin
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2009, 10:44:51 AM »

Hee, hee, we all know you don't with that KathyP, look at the signature of what she said about the dull knife below JP's post, that should scare the livin' dickins out of ya!!!  Big smiles.  Have that great and most incredibly wonderful day, health.  Cindi
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2009, 11:30:04 AM »

be nice to BarneyG  grin  we don't agree on much, but on this he's right.
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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2009, 08:12:15 PM »

Hey Kathy!

If you would like, I could give you a few more ideas on torture, I mean interrogation, to supplement the dull knife routine.  As a warrior, I am privey to quite of few interesting means of torture, I mean, interrogation.  We would torture captives to see how much pain they could stand, to determine their strength...  If they withstood for a long period of time, it meant they were strong and powerful, which meant we were even stronger and more powerful because we subdued and captured them.  Many native nations gauged their strength thusly. evil
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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2009, 08:32:55 PM »

to gain the privilege of being a warrior didn't they have to go though some tourtures...ummm, trials first?  smiley   i have always felt that it was pretty safe moral ground to use the techniques of the enemy on them.  no more, and certainly no less.  if they were well trained they should have been trained to withstand that threshold of treatment.
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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2009, 03:23:57 AM »

they say god made everything with a purpose, he must have made yellow jackets so we could enjoy destroying something; I can't imagine those horrid creatures having a purpose otherwise.
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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2009, 08:22:50 AM »

to gain the privilege of being a warrior didn't they have to go though some tourtures...ummm, trials first?  smiley   i have always felt that it was pretty safe moral ground to use the techniques of the enemy on them.  no more, and certainly no less.  if they were well trained they should have been trained to withstand that threshold of treatment.

Different nations, different rules, rituals, etc.  Among us, children are taught from a young age to endure pain and not cry out.  Even infants were taught not to cry.  A crying baby could alert an enemy as to the location of the group.  If a baby cried, the mother would pinch its nose shut.  In order to breathe through it's mouth, the infant had to stop crying.  While it sounds cruel, the baby wasn't hurt. 

For older children, older warriors would instill in them the duties and responsiblities of a warrior by recounting war stories, deeds of valor and courage, and proudly displaying scars from old wounds and injuries.  This still works today.  There is a young girl in my clan who was always afraid to go walking in the woods, but every time we got together for a gathering, she and I always had to go walking together.  When I asked her about it one day, she simply said, "I love the woods but I'm afraid of the monsters.  But I KNOW that even the monsters are afraid of you!"  Such sweet words to say to an old warrior like me.  Cry  That makes all of the hard work and sacrifice worth it.
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« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2009, 10:15:35 AM »

they say god made everything with a purpose, he must have made yellow jackets so we could enjoy destroying something; I can't imagine those horrid creatures having a purpose otherwise.

BeeHappy, couldn't have been said better....smiling.  I think that slugs were made with the same venue, they are nasty too, and I love to step on them and hear them pop, oops, did I say that?  smiling that big smile.  Beautiful days to love and live with the most awesome of health.  Cindi
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« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2009, 03:39:30 PM »

I thought that about slugs too until I saw one eating dog poop!  shocked
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« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2009, 10:54:36 PM »

Oh Jody, the second I read your post, I got grossed right out.  We had many dogs at one point in time on our property, like 5, and yes, those sneaky, disgusting, hideous, slimey pukes (have I found enough adjectives for slugs yet?) were eating the dog poop that we missed picking up, all the time, especially at dusk, when we were done the dog-pickin'-up-poo thing for the day, sick......I can't really say to have a beautiful day, cause I am thinking of those slugs eating s___, ich.  Hope the wrong-word-sayer software didn't pick up my slang for CRAP....oops, did I say that, my bad, smiling.  Health.  Cindi
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