Mick, why did you guys let the government take your guns? Why did the Brits let the government take their guns?
To cut to the chase, we let the government take guns away from people who didnt really need the guns in the first place, or guns of a certain type. If you need a gun for work, the farm, to belong to a club, to hunt, to shoot targets, etc you can have one if you meet the criteria. You cant have a gun here anymore just because you want one. Ther is no concept of having a firearm for self defense here. Never has been.
The Police were the main instigators. They seem to think that being a copper and accepting the risk of being shot is no longer acceptable. OH&S says their workplace. the streets should be safe. Jesus wept, gimme a frikkin break. What clown thought this up? nah, not going to that job, doesnt sound safe. Mrs Brown is being beaten and stabbed to death by a burglar, better wait until he comes out, or better still, we know who he is, we can pick him up tomorrow, call the coroner in 20. Ah nice safe workplace, very good.
The Port Arthur massacre was one of a few mass murders committed by nut cases in the 80s and 90s. There are more non shooters here than shooters, so it was an easy decision for the government. Crims still have guns, but less of them, when they are found, they are often connected to crimes in many states. F9s are still being recovered 25 years after a whole bunch of army weapons were stolen from a reserve armory that was unguarded at night. They got the bolts too, I think they got 15 F9s and 36 SLRs, a heap of Browning 9mms etc.
So supply is limited, customs very good. Fishermen were the major source of arms smuggling here, probably still are. If you have enough money to have a Tuna boat, you grow tired of fishing, a lot more lucrative to meet a ship at sea and take posession of a few cases. Its almost impossible to smuggle a gun through an airport now. Most of whats here has been here a long time. Hand guns used to be 1500 on the black market, now more like 5 grand for a clean one. There used to be thousands of ex WW2 and Vietnam era long guns here. Bren Guns on farms, 303s in garages. People used to dump cases of them in the bay. They are still there and have been seen by divers, so have crates of grenades, but thats another story from the army disposal era. Theres known military dump sites in the bay, and isolated crim dumps, fascinating.
No one whinges about not having the gun they really want here. If you are a pro roo shooter or rabbit shooter, you will get a semi auto rifle, anything else is single shot. You can have the best Beretta shottie money can buy if you shoot targets or ducks.
All in all, we have got used to it, guns are still used for what they were intended to do by largely the right people. We dont have armed robberies all the time anymore. Its now a knife or a baseball bat etc. Maybe a gun 1 in 100 times with a gun, almost all are are caught by the security cameras. The guns used are stolen and have passed through many hands.
Id love to be able to shoot the feral birds around here, it would be a community service, just need a bb gun. Stick a scope on the sucker and be good at 100 yards. But no I cant, besides, the RSPCA would have a fit, lil betty down the road would be in tears. I cant have a slingshot, but I can have a "baitcaster" hahha but they are only good at spitting distance.
NO, you cant have a store bought slingshot here unless you pretend it is a fishing bait caster. If you make a slingshot and take to the street with it in your back pocket, the coppers will arrest you and charge you with being in possession of an offensive weapon and you will get court and a good behaviour bond, or if you are little, you might get worse, a diversion program, where you will meet shoplifters and glue sniffers and learn new skills.
As for the Poms, last time I was there they were doing fine. Plenty of gun shops, not like yours, but more like ours, nothing semi auto, but here there used to be 100 now there is 6.
Pommy coppers remain largely unarmed, 82/20 i think. The beat copper doesnt carry a gun at all. Maybe one gets shot every few years, if that. They have had strict handgun control for ages and believe it prevents most robbers tooling up to out tool the cops and it has worked well.
It must be huge cost to them preventing arms smuggling. 20 miles from europe, is close. Im sure there are a lot more arms inthe UK than we think, but for some reason, they dont use them against cops, just each other.
Perhaps at the end of the day, the US arms industry is like Oil. Cost too many jobs and taxes to get rid of. Those companies make billions selling to civilians.
We have a growing problem with old people who think they can drive, keep going through the front of shops either forward or in reverse. What will happen when yall get too old to responsibly have a gun? Youd probably shoot your children if they tried to take it away, think they were crims instead. Worse could happen.
Will you keep your guns to the death? If you get old timers disease, how would you know if you were safe? you wonk know your own address. Youd be the type to go to a rally held by the President and fire off a few shots.