WhipCityBeeMan
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« on: August 11, 2009, 07:44:10 PM » |
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I installed api life var last night in my hives according to the directions. I use screened bottoms (for the past 2 years) and I have never had much bearding if any. Today I have lots of bearding going on. Is this due to the closing of the bottoms or the miticide? Does the miticide still work if the bees are outside the hive?
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kathyp
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 09:27:34 PM » |
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the mite treatment will sometimes drive them out for a bit. it's pretty strong when you first put it in. they should be ok in a couple of days. if it's hot, the combination of closing them up and the treatment is probably what's going on.
it will work. they will not stay out forever...unless they leave altogether.
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– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 10:19:50 PM » |
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i was going to ask for some opinions on thymol but you beat me to it. i ordered the apiguard from dadant and i'm hoping it's at least close to as good as their claims. also read that it shouldn't be used if temps are high (90+deg) and that using a small dose to start with helps the bees get used to it. i've also decided to give the mega-bee a try. good luck.
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kathyp
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 10:22:39 PM » |
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it does work. as mite treatments go, it's one of the least damaging to the hive. it's what i use when i need to use something, but i am going into the 4th year treatment free (i hope). we'll see what loss spring brings.  |
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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annette
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 10:55:27 PM » |
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it does work. as mite treatments go, it's one of the least damaging to the hive. it's what i use when i need to use something, but i am going into the 4th year treatment free (i hope). we'll see what loss spring brings. Kathy Is this because you have the mites under control or you will let the weak ones die and the strong survive?? Just asking because this is the first year I haven't done any mite treatments. Usually I do the powdered sugar dusting, but never found the mite count to be high enough to bother, and now I just feel like leaving them alone and see what happens. |
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kathyp
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2009, 11:03:46 PM » |
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i have tried to expand what appeared to be the stronger genetics from the swarms and cutouts i have done. i requeened from those hives, and combined the weak hives with the stronger, feral hives. it seems to have worked so far. we shall see |
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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annette
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 11:14:50 PM » |
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Very good. Yes I plan on making splits this Spring from the survivor hives. I took a very good course from a beekeeper names Serge Labesque here in California. He says the bees need to be able to live with the mites, pathogens etc. He believes in letting the weak ones die off and making queens from the strong ones that survive. I know many beeks on this forum are doing the same thing.
I have to admit that I am a little nervous about not doing the powdered sugar dustings, but I want to see how the hives do without it.
Also my hives have small mite counts, not really great numbers.
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