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http://ednews.org/articles/obama-administration-to-impose-liberal-un-curriculum.htmlin part: American schools used to teach the fundamental values of the United States--including the inalienable, God-given rights of life, liberty and property, as guaranteed by our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. Not any more. Now our students will be indoctrinated in the UN's definition of human rights. As clarified by the UN's UDHR, our rights now may not "be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations" (Art 29:3). Our children will be taught that they have only those rights the UN says they have.
The UNESCO standards also include the UN's Earth Charter which further defines internationally benchmarked standards. The Charter says these standards must entail what it calls "sustainability education" (Art 14:b). The Charter explains that "sustainability education" entails the "promotion of the equitable distribution of wealth within nations and among nations" (Art. 10:a), nuclear disarmament (Art. 16:d), gay marriage (Art. 12:a), legalized abortion (Art. 7:e), adoption of an "international legally binding instrument on environment" (The way Forward), and indoctrination in pantheism (Art. 14d and Art. 16:f).
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2009, 07:20:20 PM » |
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It's time for a repost......................... 
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"Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me . . . Anything can happen, child. Anything can be"
*Shel Silverstein*
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2009, 07:34:32 PM » |
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Our individual rights have been leaching away from us for some time now, all in the name of "Safety" or "Security". The moment I'm waiting for is when Obama ( who is obviously a student of both Hitler's speaches and propaganda tactics, and Marx's manipulation of the masses) announces "From each according to their abilities...for each according to their needs".
That'll be the moment that I grab my truck, my guns, my family and my bees and move out to the deepest part of the most inaccessible woods I can find! I'll most likely be found in 20 years by some hikers that keep wondering why the only thing I utter is "Who's winning the revolution?"
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"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2009, 07:52:20 PM » |
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ah! one of these! don't worry. you won't be alone, although i hope there will be some who will stick around for the fight. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A140QG0&show_article=1
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2009, 09:44:43 PM » |
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i'm no fan of the u.n. ...or obama for that matter. but misleading propaganda really bothers me, especially when it's presneted as fact. i recomend that you actually read the charter: http://www.earthcharterinaction.org/content/pages/Read-the-Charter.htmlThe Charter says these standards must entail what it calls "sustainability education" (Art 14:b). 14b reads: Promote the contribution of the arts and humanities as well as the sciences in sustainability education. ok, is this really bad? gay marriage (Art. 12:a) which reads: Eliminate discrimination in all its forms, such as that based on race, color, sex, sexual orientation, religion, language, and national, ethnic or social origin. i'm sure some here don't agree with all that, but it's not to far from the law of this land. legalized abortion (Art. 7:e) which reads: Ensure universal access to health care that fosters reproductive health and responsible reproduction. abortion included? perhaps, depending on how you interpret things....but it definitely would indicate access to birth control (which is, i suspect what the framers of this "article" really object to). and adoption of an "international legally binding instrument on environment" (The way Forward), and indoctrination in pantheism (Art. 14d and Art. 16:f). 14d: d. Recognize the importance of moral and spiritual education for sustainable living. and 16f Recognize that peace is the wholeness created by right relationships with oneself, other persons, other cultures, other life, Earth, and the larger whole of which all are a part. does this document really say what we are told it says? i think not. but hey, if it makes you feel better, at least it keeps you from being concerned about something that is actually concerning. deknow
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2009, 10:03:28 PM » |
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we have to go by what we know they are funding. they do fund abortion. we had withheld money because of it. we will now be contributing. sexual orientation i can only assume includes homosexuality. while i don't care what people do in their bedrooms, i don't think school should be taking a position on the issue, or teaching it to students. some schools already do, but this would be a national policy.
actually, i have read it. i suggest you re-read it and do it with what the UN has already done, in mind. you also miss part of the point...perhaps the most important part. we are talking about a FEDERAL takeover of all education. we already have some of that. no one seems really happy with it. now we want to turn it all over to the feds?
at the rate states rights are being eroded, we might as well abolish states while we are at it.
if you couple this with the other "childrens welfare" treaties that the UN has pushed, and we so far have not signed on to, you are talking about a government take over of most of your parental rights.
the UNs documents are always vague. their committee meetings, unpublished. we can only go by implementation and the known goals of the players.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2009, 01:44:29 AM » |
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we are talking about a FEDERAL takeover of all education. we already have some of that. no one seems really happy with it. now we want to turn it all over to the feds?
at the rate states rights are being eroded, we might as well abolish states while we are at it.
if you couple this with the other "childrens welfare" treaties that the UN has pushed, and we so far have not signed on to, you are talking about a government take over of most of your parental rights.
the UNs documents are always vague. their committee meetings, unpublished. we can only go by implementation and the known goals of the players.
It's currently called the "No Child Left Behind Act." Obamacare would enact the ability of the government to come into your home and instruct you and your child on proper child rearing methods acceptable to the government.
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Life is a school. What have you learned?  The greatest danger to our society is apathy, vote in every election!
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2009, 09:08:03 AM » |
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No Child Left Behind Act." certainly interference, but not the same as a government takeover of curriculum. again, states begged for money. what they are getting is the strings that come with it.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2009, 09:36:24 AM » |
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You do know that all of this has little stepping stones in the past that started it all. Example.... Kids shouldn't be abused.... Something should be done to protect them. Along comes the child protection services. Soon there are all forms of child abuse popping up. And soon it leads to the extreme.... they have to take the kids (all the kids) from the family environment in order to protect them completely. (Yes in some way you have abused your child if you have one)
All kids should have the right to an education. Soon it becomes mandatory all kids be educated. Then they should all be taught pretty much the same thing. Now in order to get the most advanced education for the coming future perhaps we need to take them all and place them in a totally government run school. Perhaps to guarantee peace and smooth operation of the world this should be done on a global scale.
The government (one level or other) should protect us from the criminal element. Best way to do that?? Complete data base of everyone's finger prints, DNA, and video cameras everywhere to watch everyone. Also need to take away the weapons from everyone. If we do it exactly the same all over the world we can protect everyone everywhere.
Everybody..... Even those here on these pages.... wants something from the government. (From the lowest to highest government) The very first time you ask for some small something you have placed a stepping stone towards total government control.
Be careful what you ask for. Give up a little freedom for security..............
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2009, 10:45:00 PM » |
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sure we do. the federal government has some constitutionally mandated jobs. i want them to do those jobs, and leave the rest to the states and the individual.
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"Nay, it [this constitution of government] must perish, if there be not that vital spirit in the people, which alone can nourish, sustain, and direct all its movements. It is in vain, that statesmen shall form plans of government, in which the beauty and harmony of a republic shall be embodied in visible order, shall be built up on solid substructions, and adorned by every useful ornament, if the inhabitants suffer the silent power of time to dilapidate its walls, or crumble its massy supporters into dust; if the assaults from without are never resisted, and the rottenness and mining from within are never guarded against. Who can preserve the rights and liberties of the people, when they shall be abandoned by themselves? Who shall keep watch in the temple, when the watchmen sleep at their posts? Who shall call upon the people to redeem their possessions, and revive the republic, when their own hands have deliberately and corruptly surrendered them to the oppressor, and have built the prisons, or dug the graves of their own friends?
Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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