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« on: August 02, 2009, 08:44:28 PM »

i have decided on a recurve bow.  62" even though that is on the small end for me.  45 to 50# seem to much?  have an eye on a ben pearson colt and a couple of the older bear bows.  any suggestions before i make the leap?
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2009, 11:01:22 PM »

I believe my Martin Mambas are a good bit shorter than that. The extra lenght in a recurve or long bow makes for a smoother shooting bow.

Kathy, can I assume you won't be hunting with it? If you will be, some states have a minimum draw weight allowed to hunt, usually around 45lbs for deer.

Kathy, if I were you, I would go to an archery range and ask them to shoot 40-50 lb bows. You will need to do this over a two week period if possible in order to get an accurate indication as to what you can handle.

Shooting traditional bows you will use muscles you never knew you had and your body will be sore the first few days or so. Its like lifting weights, you will have to go through an adjustment period, so if you can, get to the range before you purchase a bow that will be uncomfortable or underweight to shoot.

If I had to pick a draw weight for you it would be 45lbs, but you may be able to handle 50.

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2009, 11:46:42 PM »

thanks for the answer.  i don't plan to hunt with it.  it''s just for fun and backup if ammo goes out of style  grin 

there is a shop in town.  guess i should just suck it up and drive in. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 04:34:35 AM »

Kathy, unless you are some brawney sheila, you may well have trouble holding that weight at full draw bearing in mind that olympian males may be drawing that weight or a bit more.

Shooting recurve means that you are holding the full draw weight at 28" draw length whereas compound bows come with a let off that means you are holding a fraction of the draw weight at full draw.

If you wish to shoot recurve, as JP said the longer the bow the smoother the action of the bow, but make sure that you can hold the draw weight without the shot collapsing

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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2009, 07:02:43 AM »

Kathy, why a recurve and not a compound?


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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2009, 09:44:34 AM »

With a traditional bow, you only need to hold the draw at anchor until you're locked in to your target, but as Mick mentioned, you are still holding all of the draw weight because there is no let off as with a compound bow.

Traditional bows are far more exciting to shoot than compounds, take lots and lots of practice but there are many rewards. Just about anyone can go to a shop, get fitted for a compound, with all the gadgets can be hitting bull's eyes in ten minutes flat.

When I want meat, I use my compound. When I want to experience the hunt and really have a grand time, I use my long bow. There is no comparison.

If you want to really enjoy yourself Kathy, get you a recurve or long bow.

I do recommend you buying from an archery dealer. They can be very helpful setting you up and getting you fitted with the correct bow.


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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2009, 09:53:19 AM »

Be prepared for a bit of sticker shock though. Arrows are quite a bit more expensive than bullets, even now.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2009, 12:20:51 PM »

mick, i am after the challenge of the sport,  not just making the bullseye smiley.  this is just for fun.  i enjoyed it as a kid and thought it might be a good thing to get into again.  JP, if i can find a good archery place, i'll go.  i think there is one in town, but as i understand it, they draw mostly hunters.  i suspect the experience will be like the first truck i bought.  the guy took me to the passenger side and flipped down the vanity mirror so that i could see how nice it was  evil

i found someone else to sell me the truck.  left that guy standing on the lot while i went back into the dealer and asked who wanted to sell me a truck and not a vanity mirror.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2009, 04:12:21 PM »



i found someone else to sell me the truck.  left that guy standing on the lot while i went back into the dealer and asked who wanted to sell me a truck and not a vanity mirror.


Oh Kathy, you always make me smile!
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2009, 05:35:41 PM »

 angry Now Jp I thought you were my partner grin you know what Kathy is going to do with that bow protecting Cindi's ducks and chicken's unless we pay a higher wage and when I pull a recon I'll be catchin arrows now thanks grin
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2009, 06:03:34 PM »

Kathy, whatever you get I am sure you will enjoy. Different people get their kicks from different things and shooting recurve is a great discipline (can also be very frustrating). I am sure you will enjoy it. The important thing is not to be over-bowed.

JP is correct in his suggestion of using a dedicated archery shop to help you with your choice. Its not like buying a computer at a chain store, it has to fit you properly and the arrows have to be matched to the bow and you. If you can get someone who is knowledgeable to help you with the proper form, draw and release that should go a long way to your enjoyment

Have fun with your archery, you will find it very addictive  grin

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2009, 06:35:45 PM »

thanks mick.  i always enjoy new games.

jody, that happened a few years ago.  i still buy trucks there.  the next time i went to look, i joked to the sales guy that i was glad he wasn't trying to show me the vanity mirror.  he asked  me why i said that and i told him the story.  apparently, that incident became part of the new employee training sessions.  'how not to sell trucks to women!'
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2009, 07:05:44 PM »

I am pulling about 50# on the compound.
I got a deer year before last. It was a doe but it was in season and legal so that counts. :)doak
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2009, 07:09:21 PM »

Kathy, archery shops cater to hunters and non-hunters as well, men and women shooters.

They will be very happy you stepped in and I'd be willing to bet there are other ladies that frequent some of those archery shops. You just need to find the one that suits you.

Good luck in your quest Kathy!


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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2009, 09:30:18 PM »

I would love to own a Turkish horse bow  grin

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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2009, 11:18:18 PM »

http://www.wildwoodarchery.com.au/images/horse_bows/scythian/scythian_hero.jpg

Hey Mick, Dick Robertson's bows are absolutely incredible, ever heard of him? http://www.robertsonstykbow.com/


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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2009, 12:12:26 AM »

that would be spendy regression reduction therapy.  wonder how many drugs i could have prescribed with that amount that would do the same??   Undecided
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2009, 12:59:16 AM »

That's seriously lovely stuff JP... but...

I think I would be doomed to a foreshortened lifespan if I came home with another bow shocked 3 compounds, 1 recurve, 1 longbow

As the little lady says, How many bows can you shoot at once  huh

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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2009, 10:23:09 AM »

it's like guns.  they are just fun!!
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2009, 12:41:39 PM »

it's like guns.  they are just fun!!
Van Helsings repeating crossbow would be FUN. Cheesy
I ended up letting my oldest have both of my bows. It'd take a while for me to work the shoulder back up for archery again.
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2009, 01:58:18 PM »

it's like guns.  they are just fun!!


I use my recurves for bowfishing. I hunt with my longbow and compound. One day I want another custom made longbow.

These guys make a very good bow as well. http://www.blackwidowbows.com/


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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2009, 11:24:37 PM »

Ditto on the black widow bows. they are perfectly made, balanced and beautiful bows. I knew them when they built bows out of their converted garage just south of Nixa Mo.  I grew up shooting long bows. Moved up to re curves and finally converted to compounds.  As I have grown older I have enjoyed rediscovering the joys of regressing (or progressing) to natural shooting again.  There is a certain feeling that goes beyond pride in being able to use a bow without *thinking* through the shot and feeling the bow become an extension of your own body, and letting the unconscious part of you take over and guide the arrow to its target.
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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2009, 12:08:54 AM »

Ditto on the black widow bows. they are perfectly made, balanced and beautiful bows. I knew them when they built bows out of their converted garage just south of Nixa Mo.  I grew up shooting long bows. Moved up to re curves and finally converted to compounds.  As I have grown older I have enjoyed rediscovering the joys of regressing (or progressing) to natural shooting again.  There is a certain feeling that goes beyond pride in being able to use a bow without *thinking* through the shot and feeling the bow become an extension of your own body, and letting the unconscious part of you take over and guide the arrow to its target.

You got that right my friend, traditional archery is zen where compound shooting is fun but no spiritual feat for sure.


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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2009, 03:51:33 PM »

ok.  here is what i ended up with.

62" 45# bow with 28" arrows.  the bow was a little heavy for me they said, but the next down i over drew.  to compensate, they suggested the shorter arrows until i have more strength (ya right).

since they recommended the 62 inch bow, i went ahead and bought the used ben pearson colt that i had been looking at.  sure is smooth, but i think i will go back to the shop and invest in some good gloves  smiley  they had some neat stuff, but i'll play with this before i get crazy on new bows and other junk.  a 60 dollar bow i can afford.  the 400 dollar on they wanted to sell me was a little steep!
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2009, 09:07:40 PM »

Some use a shooting tab, some use just fingers, I use a shooting glove. Every now and again use mink oil to soften the glove.

Kathy, at full anchor, a good shop should know what your draw length to be and be able to size your arrows accordingly.

A good traditional bow shop would know. Don't expect a modern bow shop that caters to compound shooters to know all the ins and outs of setting up a traditional bow.

I wish you luck and happy shooting!


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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2009, 12:11:46 AM »

we played with some lengths.  they do custom sizing, but they also had some nice carbon practice arrows that didn't break the bank.  i'll play with those for awhile and see how this goes.
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2009, 01:36:04 AM »

I like the grace of a recurve or the oddness of a Japanese longbow - haven't shot the japanese bow myself though.
I have to admit I'm with Mick and JP on the compound though -after a couple weeks with a compound I couldn't understand why I didn't get one sooner.  I may get a crossbow sometime though - they're  allowed for general gun season around here.
having said that I haven't shot a bow or hunted in a very good stretch of years.
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2009, 06:16:25 AM »

The last time I'd done any archery was between 25 and 30 years ago. Last week I had the opportunity to pick up a Barnett compound crossbow. It's a 150# RC-300 with a red dot sight. Well for $40 I don't figure I got hurt much. While it's not going to be anything like shooting the 50# recurve I used to shoot, it does open up some hunting opportunities I was unwilling to attempt with a firearm. My FIL has some property just a few hundred yards outside of the city limits with houses nearby. He's often had a deer problem in the garden there and wanted me to hunt it, but I was always unwilling to discharge a rifle or shotgun so close to people and livestock. This should be the way around that. Besides, It'd take me several months to get the shooting shoulder back in shape to make an accurate shot offhand.
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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2009, 08:57:32 AM »

Well, I am trying to get ready for the World Masters Games to be held in Sydney, Australia in October. A lot are coming from all over the world so I am really looking forward to it. I am shooting in the 60-70 yrs division and shooting all disciplines. I have a Darton Tundra 60lb compound that I am shooting at 52lb.. my shoulder wont cope with any more than that. I shot in the last one held in Melbourne in 2002 and that was a real buzz.

I am shooting every day now and trying to get my groups down to a respectable size. I leave for Sydney on the 10-1, have a 2 day drive and then a week of full on practice with my mate Allan in the clubs around Sydney

Wish me a steady hand and a good release  grin

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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2009, 09:15:15 AM »

Good luck SlickMick and hope your arrow is true as they say. You must have some young eyes to shoot that kind of distance. I have not tried to shoot over 40 yards for quite a few years now. Some do your type of shooting with those crazy set ups of 80 and 90 lbs of draw. Now I am a pretty healthy bow shooter with mine limbed out at 70 lbs but them guys are nuts with anymore. As for Kathy. It is nice to see that more woman are taking enjoyment in the archery shooting. You do not have to hunt to enjoy and many woman pick up the finesse of shooting the traditional set ups quicker that most men. Have fun!
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« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2009, 10:39:44 AM »

good luck SlickMick.  that sounds like fun.  i think i had my fill of competition with the horses, but who knows.....

sparky, i have been having fun.  have not spent as much time doing it as i would have liked, but after this month things should quiet down.  at the moment, even the broad side of my barn is safe from my aim.

vibe, i am finding that it satisfies some of my shooting itch.  i don't have to worry about checking around for stray folks before i put holes in things.
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« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2009, 10:40:44 AM »

Good luck Mick! Bring back a trophy!


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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2009, 04:30:58 PM »

Thanks guys. I am really looking forward to it. I have made so many friends in the archery world since I started shooting in tournaments.. people from all over the world and it is always so wonderful to catch up with them again

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« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2009, 09:54:28 AM »

thanks for the answer.  i don't plan to hunt with it.  it''s just for fun and backup if ammo goes out of style  grin  

Oh Kathy, you still crack me up, you gun totin' mamma!!!  I remember reading your post about you're thinkin' that you're gonna get into archery.  Good for you girl, you go!!!  My youngest Daughter knows how to shoot a bow, her girlfriend taught her many years ago here on our property.  They got pretty good at it, smiling.  They had a great target that they had (nope, not guys), it was a big hunk of some kind of plywood or something that they painted white.  I yearned to learn how.  But I saw it to be a difficult thing, and that was when I had that bad rotator cuff, so I daren't.  I think when we make that great move, that I am definitely going to be looking into learning to shoot a bow.  I think it would be the most funnest thing, smiling.  So, girl, get going, get good, and maybe you just would never need to use a noisey ol' gun anymore.  Have that most awesome day, to love and live with the best of health. Cindi
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« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2009, 01:00:06 AM »

Well after the first round of competition I finished 4th in the very old timers division.. those between 60 and 70 years. We shot 36 arrows at each of 60,50, 40 and 30 metres.. plus the warm up arrows

I am a little tired but I have pulled up well and I'm now looking forward to 2 days of shooting field in the bush starting tomorrow

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« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2009, 10:04:26 AM »

good for you.  i hope you are getting pictures for us?  keep us posted!
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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2009, 08:10:51 PM »

Way to go Mick. I have not seen shots like those distances since it was on TV. Good luck the next two shoots. I think the guy on TV was Byron something. Of coarse he had to show his stuff as his wife through up wood disc from a moving auto out the sun roof that he shot. The best trick shots were the balloons he shot fastened to a bail of straw that he had to deflect the shafts off two angled sheets of plywood before it hit the balloons from around 100yds. If I could train my arrows to bounce off the trees like that, when I am hunting, the freezer would be full of venison every year with out a dought.  grin
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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2009, 03:19:06 AM »

Today was the IFAA field shoot ... all done in open ground distances from 20 feet to 80 yards and blowing a gale. Wind gusts to about 70 km/hr and impossible to hold on the shot. Most difficult field shoot that I have been in. Nothing difficult in the 28 targets.. just the wind.

Wonder how it will be tomorrow

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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2009, 06:38:52 AM »

If you practice instinctive shooting you don't need to hold it at all, you just keep your eye on the target and shoot when you get to full draw.  After a while you're just on.  Like throwing a ball.  As far as pull, I find that what is difficult at first rapidly gets easy with exercise and practice.  After you get used to a harder pull, it's hard to be accurate with a lighter pull.  The lack of tension seems to make it hard for me to aim...

I think you'll enjoy the 45# bow.
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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2009, 07:47:24 AM »

back in the 70's when i lived in Wisconsin I went to a outdoor show.  there was a vender that made custom stick bows.   they had a competition letting spectaters try to pull a 100+ plus bamboo stick bow.  It had to be pulled to full draw and held for 3 seconds.   Well alot of big bulked up guys tryed.  They would hold it up at 45 deg and yank, spin and grunt.  The guy that won was just a normal looking guy and he held it straight out in front of him and in a very smooth motion pulled and held.  They moral of this story is pumping iron doesn't build the proper muscles.   
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« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2009, 10:12:22 AM »

i don't even know how you can compete in the wind!  a steady wind might be manageable, but gusts suck. 


45# is just right i think.  i have had some fun with it, but time has gotten away from me.  we also have had some wind issues.  i need to set up in a better place, but at this time of the year, no place is wind free.  it's going to be one of those years......

as for the building muscle, the draw does not seem to be a problem.  i do some weight lifting, but for toning, not bulk  grin  that, riding, and farm work, seem to have given me enough strength for this hobby.
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« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2009, 10:38:44 AM »

i do some weight lifting, but for toning, not bulk  grin  that, riding, and farm work, seem to have given me enough strength for this hobby.

Farm girls are tough gals.  Picture the amount of lifting stuff you do, the amount that you use your arms for those things, yep, you should have enough strength from your work as a farm girl throughout your life for that hobby, me too, think I could outwrestle any man in an arm wrestle, providing his arms were the same length as mine, smiling, and a leg wrestle, they wouldn't have a chance!!!  shocked Smiley Smiley  I have extremely strong legs from years of digging shovels in the dirt.  Have that great, most awesome day, health.  Cindi
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« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2009, 07:19:16 PM »

Still, as mentioned, the muscles you use for a bow seem to be muscles you don't use for much of anything else...

The old long bows in England used to be 150 to 200 pounds.  It's amazing what a human can do with practice...
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« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2009, 11:11:20 PM »

Still, as mentioned, the muscles you use for a bow seem to be muscles you don't use for much of anything else...

The old long bows in England used to be 150 to 200 pounds.  It's amazing what a human can do with practice...


I concur. A very good friend of mine used to own an archery shop. Some of the biggest, baddest musclemen that entered the shop were demoralized when they couldn't draw what the experienced shooters were pulling. There are definitely muscles not ordinarily used when drawing a bow. Particularly, a traditional bow.


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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2009, 06:44:59 AM »

Those big hunks seem to think that it is the arms that do the work but it isn't. If they used the correct muscles (the back muscles) and rolled their arms they would find it very different.

My shoulders are shot and I used 60lb as the FITA competition limit but now shoot 52 lb.

You are correct about the old bowmen of Merry England all those years ago

I was in the UK a few years ago and saw the long bows that came off the Mary Rose... traditional longbows about 2" diameter in the middle.. big bows in anybodies language

Mick

PS Finished 5th in the field today Smiley. Lay day tomorrow and clout (shooting at a target at 200 yards) on Friday. Should be
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On a road never cross'd 'cept by folk that are lost,
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He was strong as the best, but poor Mike had no rest
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