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SlickMick
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« on: July 10, 2009, 03:36:42 AM »

After losing all (2) my hives to the SHB last November, I was determed to rebuild this year. This year I have gone from zero hives to 5 (iincluding nucs) by catching swarms, I am still on the swarm list and dont want to come off it. Only 1 hive is booming another is growing nicely but both the others are in need of numbers. I dont want to go over 4 hives as I live in a large city and dont have any places I can hive my bees away from home. So later I will be combining 2 of my weaker hives in preparation for the spring build up .

When swarming season starts around September/October I have been thinking that a way of building up numbers of bees in the weaker hives would be to combine the swarms with them. I am supposing that there is always the risk of introduced disease but Aussie is relatively free of some of the problems of the US and swarms that I have combined previously have presented no problems at this stage.

Has anyone done this before and how successful was it?

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On the outer Barcoo where the churches are few,
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He was strong as the best, but poor Mike had no rest
   For the youngster had never been christened,
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 06:15:58 AM »

Mick, I have had no problems combining with swarms, but our swarms are so strong, they build up quickly and fiercly and it is common to attain a harvest within a few months of setting them up.


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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 07:19:05 AM »

Thanks JP. What would you do about the 2 queens?

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On the outer Barcoo where the churches are few,
   And men of religion are scanty,
On a road never cross'd 'cept by folk that are lost,
   One Michael Magee had a shanty.

Now this Mike was the dad of a ten-year-old lad,
   Plump, healthy, and stoutly conditioned;
He was strong as the best, but poor Mike had no rest
   For the youngster had never been christened,
A BUSH CHRISTENING - A.B. "Banjo" Paterson http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/patersonab/poetry/christen.html
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 09:58:33 AM »

If you don't need them then just combine them and let them duke it out.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 10:07:47 AM »

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them and let them duke it out.

that's what i did with a couple of small swarms that i got early.  if i had gotten them a little later, i would have taken one and made nucs with brood from stronger hives.  the swarms would have been strong and i would have had nucs to set aside for next years growth.  i hate to kill queens when i don't have to!   grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 10:43:43 AM »

I have a friend I give swarms too quite regularly, he usually throws them together and let the bees decide.

I'm like Kathy, I hate giving up queens, I think they're all pretty special, just like the women on this site! Kiss Kiss Kiss

I actually hate pinching queens, just ask Bud. I would catch them and give them to him, they were plump and beautiful, but with the problems he's having with his hives, it was something we had to do. Cry


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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 11:36:34 AM »



I'm like Kathy, I hate giving up queens, I think they're all pretty special, just like the women on this site! Kiss Kiss Kiss


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Very Nice JP, I like that one alot!!!!! rainbow sunflower
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 11:39:53 AM »

Annette you better get ready for the BRAT attack grin
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 11:45:50 AM »

Hey, where's Cindi when you need a good ribbing? shocked evil grin


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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 12:26:56 PM »

What I was really going to say in response to that was,

Hey JP are you going to put us all together to fight it out, or are you going to pinch the ones you don't want?

(I know I am getting pinched because I know who is going to win - rock mean anything?)
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2009, 01:01:13 PM »

What I was really going to say in response to that was,

Hey JP are you going to put us all together to fight it out, or are you going to pinch the ones you don't want?

(I know I am getting pinched because I know who is going to win - rock mean anything?)
fishhit butt kick rainbow sunflower Cindi lau
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2009, 04:57:32 PM »

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Hey JP are you going to put us all together to fight it out, or are you going to pinch the ones you don't want?

i'd love to see him try!

we hijacked slicks thread.....we may all get pinched.
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2009, 05:08:52 PM »

GGRRRRRRR  hissy fit
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On the outer Barcoo where the churches are few,
   And men of religion are scanty,
On a road never cross'd 'cept by folk that are lost,
   One Michael Magee had a shanty.

Now this Mike was the dad of a ten-year-old lad,
   Plump, healthy, and stoutly conditioned;
He was strong as the best, but poor Mike had no rest
   For the youngster had never been christened,
A BUSH CHRISTENING - A.B. "Banjo" Paterson http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/patersonab/poetry/christen.html
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 12:24:33 AM »

This drone loves all his queens, equally! Kiss Kiss Kiss

 stay on topic wierd thread I'm sorry lau rainbow sunflower pop I dunno


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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2009, 01:43:34 PM »

 applause applause applause applause
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2009, 05:57:03 PM »

JP I can tell by the girls' reactions that you are a real ladie's man  grin

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On the outer Barcoo where the churches are few,
   And men of religion are scanty,
On a road never cross'd 'cept by folk that are lost,
   One Michael Magee had a shanty.

Now this Mike was the dad of a ten-year-old lad,
   Plump, healthy, and stoutly conditioned;
He was strong as the best, but poor Mike had no rest
   For the youngster had never been christened,
A BUSH CHRISTENING - A.B. "Banjo" Paterson http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/patersonab/poetry/christen.html
JP
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2009, 08:00:58 PM »

Mick, my wife is cuban, she says I can look but I can't touch, or I'm in deep trouble! chop chop lau


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