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« on: July 09, 2009, 01:05:16 PM »

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/07/09/in_health_bill_billions_for_parks_paths/

never mind the destruction of health care in this country.  why not throw a little pork into the mix while we are at it?  after all, it's not their money they are spending!
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 02:21:53 PM »

If I could have one political wish (besides for term limits), it would be that every single bill is a single item bill. No pork, no hidden extras.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 03:37:46 PM »

And they are thinking about taxing the rich with extra taxes to pay for the health care.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 05:27:15 PM »

If I could have one political wish (besides for term limits), it would be that every single bill is a single item bill. No pork, no hidden extras.

Dragonfly You are a true Southern Lady for sure grin
But I was thinking it was in the Constitution or was it the CSA Constitution  huh
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The Confederates add this little clause at the end of Section 9. This is quite an interesting addition, as it demands that all laws only relate to "one subject." This would prevent what we see today, where endless riders attached to bills can allow Congress to pass all sorts of extraordinarily complicated laws that regulate about 50 different topics at once. We Southerners got it right 149 years ago. Seems to me someone by now would have at least tryed to put it in the USA  Constitution. Along with a line item veto...... rolleyes
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 09:07:29 PM »



Dragonfly You are a true Southern Lady for sure grin
But I was thinking it was in the Constitution or was it the CSA Constitution  huh
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Hah! It must be in my blood, because it wasn't in my brain. grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 10:01:53 AM »

"20) Every law, or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title.   

The Confederates add this little clause at the end of Section 9. This is quite an interesting addition, as it demands that all laws only relate to "one subject." This would prevent what we see today, where endless riders attached to bills can allow Congress to pass all sorts of extraordinarily complicated laws that regulate about 50 different topics at once. We Southerners got it right 149 years ago."

My great-great grandaddy and his relations were in the 154th NY and I don't think he was on the wrong side, but I can see where this clause makes sense (they are all probably spinning in their graves now).  Our founding fathers probably didn't include it because it is common sense and shouldn't need to be spelled out in our Constitution.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 12:55:51 PM »

"20) Every law, or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title.   

The Confederates add this little clause at the end of Section 9. This is quite an interesting addition, as it demands that all laws only relate to "one subject." This would prevent what we see today, where endless riders attached to bills can allow Congress to pass all sorts of extraordinarily complicated laws that regulate about 50 different topics at once. We Southerners got it right 149 years ago."

My great-great grandaddy and his relations were in the 154th NY and I don't think he was on the wrong side, but I can see where this clause makes sense (they are all probably spinning in their graves now).  Our founding fathers probably didn't include it because it is common sense and shouldn't need to be spelled out in our Constitution.

Sorry we can't all be from the south Wink

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