Welcome, Guest

Author Topic: Head butt reason  (Read 1507 times)

Offline patook

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 117
  • Gender: Male
    • Brother Bee Apiary
Head butt reason
« on: June 27, 2009, 04:16:39 AM »
The other day I walked outside to my car and was greeted by one of my girls headbutting me. She was not interested in my children or my wife, just me. I had to go back into the house for something and she was still waiting for me when I got back.  This was 200ft from the hive.

My question is; What was she trying to do?

I figure it is one of these:

1) She just wanted to warn me off and not sting me.

2) She was trying to sting me and just couldn't find a good spot, or perhaps she didn't know which end she was supposed to use.

3) She recognized me as her "sugar daddy" and was greeting me.

4) She was trying to ball me but couldn't get any of her sisters interested.

Seriously though, if I gave her time, was she trying to sting me?


Offline sc-bee

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2276
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2009, 05:01:23 AM »
>1) She just wanted to warn me off and not sting me.

 ;)
John 3:16

Offline Bee Happy

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1656
  • Gender: Male
  • that's me - setting a phoenix free
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2009, 08:06:06 PM »
I gotta wonder if some of them just fly into you because you weren't there a few minutes ago.
be happy and make others happy.

Offline Cheryl

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 232
  • Gender: Female
  • top bar beekeeper
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2009, 08:47:37 PM »
3.) She definitely recognized you.

My bees will confront me in the front yard, especially if the hive is downwind and they catch my scent. If the wind is blowing the other way, sometimes I'll be confronted by a returning forager or two.

My mum can walk around the entire yard without being confronted because she isn't the one who opens their hive to mess with them. Me, though, if I wait a week or two, the bees will forget about me (or my confronters will have been replaced), and I can walk about freely -- until I open the hive again.
We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.

~ Aristotle

Offline Michael Bush

  • Universal Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 14791
  • Gender: Male
    • bushfarms.com
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2009, 06:20:41 PM »
>1) She just wanted to warn me off and not sting me.

Yes.

>2) She was trying to sting me and just couldn't find a good spot, or perhaps she didn't know which end she was supposed to use.

No.

>3) She recognized me as her "sugar daddy" and was greeting me.

She recognized you as a large mammal...

>4) She was trying to ball me but couldn't get any of her sisters interested.

No.

>Seriously though, if I gave her time, was she trying to sting me?

No.  But that's the next step.  Headbutting is your first warning.  Hair pulling is another defensive technique short of stinging.
Michael Bush
My website:  bushfarms.com/bees.htm en espanol: bushfarms.com/es_bees.htm  auf deutsche: bushfarms.com/de_bees.htm
My book:  ThePracticalBeekeeper.com
-------------------
"Everything works if you let it."--Rick Nielsen

Offline Natalie

  • Queen Bee
  • ****
  • Posts: 1478
  • Gender: Female
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2009, 07:19:56 PM »
Whats up with the ones that headbutt and sting you as they go by, like a light" sting?
Does anyone even know what I am talking about? :-D
It sounds strange the way I describe it but I have had bees fly by fast and they kind of sting and keep going or they head butt you but sting and then bounce off.
I was walking out to the chicken coop the other day and had to pass the hives.
I did work the hives either the day before or two days before, anyway I was just walking by and one charged over and got me the side of my forehead but didn't linger.
Its like when they headbutt you hard but they also lightly sting before they bounce off and don't leave their stinger.
I got a very slight swelling but not the usual reaction.

Offline luvin honey

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1540
  • Gender: Female
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 01:40:09 AM »
Hair pulling is another defensive technique short of stinging.

Are you serious? Wow? How do they do that? I'm thinking you're joking, but I've not read an MB joke yet online.  :lol:
The pedigree of honey
Does not concern the bee;
A clover, any time, to him
Is aristocracy.
---Emily Dickinson

Offline Cheryl

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 232
  • Gender: Female
  • top bar beekeeper
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 01:46:06 AM »
Hair pulling is another defensive technique short of stinging.

Are you serious? Wow? How do they do that?
Too cool! Come to think of it, I've had a bee pull my hair - or I think I have..... I just thought the bee was tangled up, buzzing and trying to sting (maybe she was).

Hair pulling. Go figure!
We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.

~ Aristotle

Offline Irwin

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2344
  • Gender: Male
  • howdy all
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 12:13:08 PM »
Hair pulling is another defensive technique short of stinging.

Are you serious? Wow? How do they do that?
Too cool! Come to think of it, I've had a bee pull my hair - or I think I have..... I just thought the bee was tangled up, buzzing and trying to sting (maybe she was).

Hair pulling. Go figure!
It's a girl thing  :-D :-P :lau:
Fight organized crime!  Re-elect no one.

Offline Natalie

  • Queen Bee
  • ****
  • Posts: 1478
  • Gender: Female
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2009, 02:02:20 PM »
Irwin! :-D
No, Michael is not kidding, I have read that before but forgot about it.
I really hate when they go for the hair, it is so hard to get them out and then they get really ticked off. Try finding the stingers by yourself :(
I have had them buzz the top of my head and get the hair, I just thought they flew low as a warning and the hair got pulled by accident, but it definitely felt like they were pulling strands of hair.

Offline Cheryl

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 232
  • Gender: Female
  • top bar beekeeper
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2009, 02:29:28 PM »
It's a girl thing  :-D :-P :lau:
MEEEEAAOWRRRRRRRR -- Fttttttttt!! -- Fttttttt!!!! :lau:
We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.

~ Aristotle

Offline Michael Bush

  • Universal Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 14791
  • Gender: Male
    • bushfarms.com
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2009, 02:33:08 PM »
>Are you serious?

Yes.

>How do they do that?

They grab you hair.  But then they often get tangled in it.  On other bees they just pull it out (hence dark shiny robber bees)

>I'm thinking you're joking, but I've not read an MB joke yet online

I'd probably be obvious if it was a joke or do a wink ;)
Michael Bush
My website:  bushfarms.com/bees.htm en espanol: bushfarms.com/es_bees.htm  auf deutsche: bushfarms.com/de_bees.htm
My book:  ThePracticalBeekeeper.com
-------------------
"Everything works if you let it."--Rick Nielsen

Offline tlynn

  • Field Bee
  • ***
  • Posts: 529
  • Gender: Male
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2009, 11:37:23 PM »
In my experience if a bee is going to sting a distance from the hive she will fly right to you, land, and sting in milliseconds.  Wham-o!  Happened on my nose a couple months ago.  Head butters never seem to sting and they definitely do discern me from my wife.  Usually happens after I work the bees and I get them too stirred up and we both go out in the yard later.  One may run me back into the house while she's sitting out there laughing at me :-).   

Offline luvin honey

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1540
  • Gender: Female
Re: Head butt reason
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2009, 12:50:52 AM »
Well, the hair-pulling thing explains how I got one completely tangled in my hair! My dad, too :)

I've also noticed that the head butters never sting me. They seem to be saying, "Hello? You are really annoying us. Just wanted to pass that on in case you wanted to move along already!" and then just keep repeating themselves until I back off.

The stingers just land and dig it in.  :'(
The pedigree of honey
Does not concern the bee;
A clover, any time, to him
Is aristocracy.
---Emily Dickinson