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Offline Jerrymac

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Things one can't believe.
« on: June 04, 2009, 02:24:36 PM »
Why would someone like David Carradine commit suicide  :?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_en_tv/as_thailand_david_carradine
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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2009, 02:30:05 PM »
Why would someone like David Carradine commit suicide  :?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_en_tv/as_thailand_david_carradine

I could think of several reasons, but without any evidence to show which one it might be, it would be pointless to list possible reasons.  But I'm sure he had his own reasons.

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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 03:11:35 PM »
I can only think of a couple of reasons that are relatively common in his age group. He may have been diagnosed with a terminal disease, or possibly was having severe financial problems. I don't claim to know, it's just the only things that come to mind.

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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 08:35:58 PM »
He always looked like he should be wearing red nikes,drinking cool-aid and waiting for the aliens to come.

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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2009, 09:03:54 PM »
..that sounds kind of fun except add shades  8-) and delete kool aid. :-P
or at least writing about the aliens landing.
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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2009, 10:06:24 PM »
I guess grasshopper wanted to go home

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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2009, 10:50:00 PM »
Kwai Chang Caine, may you rest in peace. He will be missed. Its quite a shame when a public figure goes out like this.


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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2009, 11:20:34 PM »
He was seventy something ,I remember watching his father in some horror movies when I was younger.
I believe that sometimes people in older age hurt with arthuris or other types of ache they just give up. One nevers knows whats within anothers mind unless they verbally share it.
I'm  going to hang around long as I can . I'll have plenty sleeping time later. :)

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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2009, 11:54:25 PM »
Update:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090605/ap_on_en_ot/as_obit_carradine

I must not be too far off the mark. Seems other can't believe it either.
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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2009, 01:29:58 AM »
He was seventy something ,I remember watching his father in some horror movies when I was younger.
I believe that sometimes people in older age hurt with arthuris or other types of ache they just give up. One nevers knows whats within anothers mind unless they verbally share it.
I'm  going to hang around long as I can . I'll have plenty sleeping time later. :)

I would lay odds on the probability that he wasn't as decrepit as I am, meaning I probably have more reason to commit suicide than he does.  Suicide is a cowards way out of life.  Our reason for living is to learn and suicide is quiting school before we graduate.  A natural death is a graduation.  Accidental deaths are a pass but suicide is a failure.

Who kills themselves purposefully in the middle of a possitive project (making a movie), accidental like an overdose of drungs is more understandable.
Murder made to look like a suicide is not out of the question either.
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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2009, 07:26:20 AM »
Perhaps he died happy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090605/ap_on_en_mo/as_carradine_death

Some private things about a person sometimes come out when they die.
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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2009, 06:15:10 AM »
I don't necessarily believe that suicide is a cowardly act.  It can be, but isn't necessarily so.  It really depends on the circumstances. 

Regardless, it's possible that he might not have committed suicide anyway.  I mean, if he did commit suicide, why did he hang himself naked?  That doesn't makes sense to me.  Of course, for all I know those Shaolin monks were ticked off at the way he portrayed them in movies and took their revenge or something.  None of us were there (I hope), so it's very difficult to say with any degree of certainty.

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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2009, 09:57:14 AM »
I don't necessarily believe that suicide is a cowardly act.  It can be, but isn't necessarily so.  It really depends on the circumstances. 

Regardless, it's possible that he might not have committed suicide anyway.  I mean, if he did commit suicide, why did he hang himself naked?  That doesn't makes sense to me.  Of course, for all I know those Shaolin monks were ticked off at the way he portrayed them in movies and took their revenge or something.  None of us were there (I hope), so it's very difficult to say with any degree of certainty.

You just had to go there didn't you, because Sarge, in your very essence, you like to stir things up, makes you feel better, apparently.

Yes Sarge, David Carradine was killed by Shaolin monks! Give me a friggin' break!

Quote "I don't necessarily believe that suicide is a cowardly act."

Unless all love ones were notified ahead of time that the person committing suicide was offing him/herself, it is undoubtedly a cowardly and most selfish act.


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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2009, 12:57:13 PM »
the Shaolin monks now aren't the real deal - they're chicom military. While very very skilled 'warriors' the chicom government is leaving out a critical part of what Shaolin IS. -they're fake copies of the real thing.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2009, 01:58:39 PM »
From the tidbits I have been hearing and reading about, the entire things seems rather weird to me. :?

On the issue of suicide, I used to think, as many do, it is a selfish and cowardly act, and to some extent it is. There's a side of it though, that many don't experience firsthand, which convinced me that the majority of people who have reached this point are no longer in a rational state of mind, and although it may be selfish and leave a huge wake of destruction (ie family and loved ones dumped suddenly into a cauldron of emotional turmoil), the suicide committer is usually not cognizant of the damage he/she is doing at the time. It's a real drag and a stupid point of no return, but there's not much rationality or thought going on at the time. It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
I'm not referring to the multitude of "suicide threaters", but the real deal.

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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2009, 02:47:27 PM »
from the articles I've seen - it was an accident.
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Re: Things one can't believe.
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2009, 04:03:27 PM »
from the articles I've seen - it was an accident.

If you want to call engaging in auto-erotic self asphixiation an accident.  Safe words don't mean a lot when you are alone.

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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2009, 05:20:46 PM »

If you want to call engaging in auto-erotic self asphixiation an accident. 


Yeah, it's kinda like the stuff you see in movies. :shock: ;)
Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but tying things around your genitals, much less your neck,  just sounds masochistic, and like there's not much meaning in life. Call me crazy. :roll:  It's not that it matters to me personally- I just have difficulty relating to it. It sort of takes the suicide "motivation" off the table.

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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2009, 05:40:18 PM »
on the bright side, he won't have to deal with the embarrassment of having been rushed to the hospital after being found unconscious in the same circumstances.
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2009, 05:53:41 PM »
on the bright side, he won't have to deal with the embarrassment of having been rushed to the hospital after being found unconscious in the same circumstances.

Good point there. :)

Once, I was driving home from work, snacking on some Hot Tamales candy, when I almost choked to death on one. The vision that popped into my head, while I was wondering if I was going to die on the highway,  was seeing my obituary in the local paper stating that I had choked to death on candy- what an embarrassment.  :-D