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« on: June 02, 2009, 05:51:14 PM »

I just sat and watched the TWITTER "Why Twitter" video and found it to be the most waste of time mini-service I've ever heard explained. I will be the first to say I don't like any of these Face Book, My Space, social networking sites - I hear horror stories about people who get turned down for jobs because of the things they say and do and by the friends they keep on such networks.

Twitter, except for the ease of the cellphone seems the lamest of all. Telling someone "I just ate soup" or "I had to mow the lawn this morning" is not communicating in my book - it is advertising forced down our throats with another shallow and useless service.

Please someone disagree and let me know why, cause I just don't get it!

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 05:56:00 PM »

twitter and facebook are handy when you are traveling and want to update a number of people without making individual phone calls.  facebook is good for sharing links, pics, and info with large numbers of people.  both can be accessed from a web enabled phone, so you don't need to find a computer to use them.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 09:50:42 PM »

I have never even logged on to any of those social network sites.
To me the word twitter means an electronics store we had around here and then a concert venue that was named the same.
I don't know, with me I just feel like if I want people to know stuff about me I will tell them what I want them to know individually without putting it out there for all the world to see.
I am a fairly private person to begin with so maybe thats part of it but I just don't get it.
I too have heard alot of horror stories, especially with young people being stupid, the fights they have and the outrageous things they say that I am sure they will regret.
I am not knocking anyone who likes those sites and uses them, it just does not appeal to me.
I still like the "old fashioned" ways, chatting on the phone(my least favorite) or my favorites , getting together with girlfriends and catching up over a cup of ice tea in the garden or a barbecue with friends etc...
Things are getting so impersonal in the world now.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2009, 10:10:27 PM »

I have thought about signing up just to get news updates, etc... from the WH, or other world leaders... they say even Kim Jong IL twitters... might be nice to get a heads up about nuclear war.   Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2009, 10:37:24 PM »

I have a myspace for the sole pourpose of keeping in touch with the friends i moved away from (they never have been able to answer the phone, but neither can I. I hate playing tag on the phone!!!!!!!!)
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 10:58:03 PM »

I don't even know what "twitter" is. I suppose it's due partly to my age, and because I'm not that electronically savvy. I like to visit face to face, write letters, email, or text to keep in touch. I'm also a pretty private individual.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 03:30:54 AM »

I cant agree more John. Why on earth do people feel the need to be connected 24/7 in the first place? Twitter is just for idiots that are also sheep.

Facebook is owned by the CIA, I wouldnt be surprised if they are behind twitter as well. All these sites are just aimed at getting people (idiots) to divulge their personal info to the various Govts and companys in the world.

If I was a Govt, that wanted to spy on its citizens for any reason, I could think of nothing better than to create a site where idiots reveal every simple thought that enters their heads.

Twitter is a goldmine for Govt. You use it at your own risk. Id be surprised if some fool hasnt been caught twittering about buying drugs already.

At the end of the day, these social networking sites are just a marketing tool. Its just so sad that society as a whole is getting more and more stupid.

IMO a sign of success in this life is to not find your name on google.
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 03:48:53 AM »

I don't  - there's other sites I like being on; fakebook for the games, yahoo for the chat, hulu for all the tv shows I ever liked, and this one to learn about bees. It's as heavily newsvertised (that's an ad slipped into the news or posing as news) as it probably is full of ads.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 07:32:42 AM »

Mick, where did you get the idea that Facebook was owned by the CIA?  It was started by a bunch of Harvard sophomores, the head guy is Mark Zuckerman, the CIA has nothing to do with it. 

I'm on Facebook.  It's fun, nothing like Twitter, a bunch of friends exchanging pictures and stuff like that, it's as revealing as you'd like it to be.  It's also a good way to reconnect with people from your past, you an find lots of people from all age groups and interests on there.  I'm not advocating it, if you don't like it, you don't do it, but for those of us who do, it's just fun.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2009, 02:33:25 PM »

>I just don't get it!

I never got any of them.  But obviously I'm not understanding the appeal because I'm missing something.  I"m not saying that I want to do any of them but I would like to understand why people do...
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2009, 11:52:22 PM »

I suppose I am too old ,too conservative for to -days world. I have been a member of several  veterans sites for a long period of time .Somethings that I see posted goes against the way I was raised  and the way I am. I have been no angel but I see a lot of things posted that makes an ole sailor,who has traveled extensively in my time,   blush.
Having said all that I doubt, I will ever twitter , go on facebook or myspace.
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2009, 11:58:43 PM »

I dunno, Twitter seems like a paradox to me. Only people with boring lives have time to constantly talk about what they're doing; nothing. Huh I think it might work better for traveling music bands or whatever--they're always on a plane or something, but it doesn't seem like the average Joe would have time to twit. And to put it bluntly, who cares what flavor of bagel you're eating for breakfast? Wink
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2009, 01:07:25 AM »

Grant it I have not seen many, only the ones someone has made a point to show me. Like "hey look at what so and so is saying or posting etc."
It seems like alot of people use them to brag about themselves which I can't stand in people.
Not everyone obviously uses these social sites to do that but some of the ones I have been shown appear to be. I guess thats why someone took the time to point the posts out to me.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2009, 03:22:45 PM »

AKGovSarahPalin Twitters from her Blackberry

http://twitter.com/AKGovSarahPalin
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2009, 06:10:19 PM »

Don't we already know way too much of her private life?
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2009, 06:52:58 PM »

Palin tends to get her public life and her private life confused, among other things. Twitter is perfect for showcasing that  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2009, 08:30:41 PM »

I don't twitter...yet. but I do have a facebook account. I got on it because my highschool reunion commitee was using it to connect with people. I'm still not sure exactly what I think of it. I have found some old friends and that is sort of fun but also a little strange. I have also used it to promote my martial arts classes and that seems somewhat worthwhile.  I also belong to a ning comunity for Indonesian martial arts called Silat tv. Has lots of video piped in from youtube.  It is very interesting and informative much like this forum. Imagine this forum but with space for individuals to highlight their own beek stuff, like mini websites and mini blogs worked into the forum, kind of.... I am also working on creating a ning community for Bagua a type of Chinese martial art which I plan to cross link with my martial arts web site www.baguachuan.com . The idea is to create community which will help to fuel interest in the art. Then of course hopefully ultimatly bring me students. Lots of work to put together. Jury is still out for me on these types of things it is a lot of work to keep up on it all as well.
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2009, 10:23:43 PM »

Twitter....Cool word!
 Yeh, mick...whats with the CIA?...EVERYBODY knows that Oprah owns it!
As for me, I cant even keep up with my blog!

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2009, 01:13:35 PM »

I think saying that many are on Facebook because they like to brag is a little over the top.  I've seen very little of it, and I have lots of 'connections' on Facebook.  Maybe it's my age group, but we're all just a bunch of people who like to banter back and forth, stay connected when our busy lives keep us from doing so.

As for Twitter, that, to me, is neurotic networking.  I don't see the point, but then again, millions do, so who am I to judge?
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2009, 04:14:57 AM »

Mick, where did you get the idea that Facebook was owned by the CIA?  It was started by a bunch of Harvard sophomores, the head guy is Mark Zuckerman, the CIA has nothing to do with it. 

I'm on Facebook.  It's fun, nothing like Twitter, a bunch of friends exchanging pictures and stuff like that, it's as revealing as you'd like it to be.  It's also a good way to reconnect with people from your past, you an find lots of people from all age groups and interests on there.  I'm not advocating it, if you don't like it, you don't do it, but for those of us who do, it's just fun.

Its well known that facebook is owned by a CIA shadow company. Has been for years.

All social networking sites are monitored. Its not hard to build up a profile on someone from these sites. If I chose a person who has an anonymous facebook site or similar, within 24 hours and just using the net, not using commercial pay to spy sites, I would have that much info on you, I could steal your identity. It happens every minute.

Its not only what you say, its what people linked to you say and do as well.

What the kids of today are posting at age 12 or 16, will be used 30 or 40 years later if necessary. Its all about profiling. What we say today is also recorded. Only difference is us older types have less in our files.

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2009, 06:56:16 AM »

Sorry, I'm a cynic, but not paranoid.  I'm on enough forums across the internet that they can monitor me that way, too, if they want to bother, but why am I so interesting?  If you draw the attention of people like that you've got way more problems than posting to Facebook.  The CIA doesn't have to own Facebook to monitor it.  As for stealing my identity, that can happen anywhere on the internet, so if you're really worried about it, don't post anything, anywhere, heck, don't connect  up at all.
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2009, 08:37:04 AM »

It seems like a waste of time to me, no information of any value to be gained. And personal data needs not be on the web.
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2009, 10:37:57 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2009, 10:38:23 AM »

I think saying that many are on Facebook because they like to brag is a little over the top.  I've seen very little of it, and I have lots of 'connections' on Facebook.  Maybe it's my age group, but we're all just a bunch of people who like to banter back and forth, stay connected when our busy lives keep us from doing so.

As for Twitter, that, to me, is neurotic networking.  I don't see the point, but then again, millions do, so who am I to judge?

Who said anything about facebook??

If you read my post again, I said grant it I have not seen many and the ones that I have seen is because people actually took the time to point them out to me. Obviously those are going to be ridiculous since someone actually wanted to show them to me.

Over the top, not at all.
I know what I have seen.
Although as you said, it could be your age group.

My kids seem to like those groups and they use to always ask me if they could make me a page or whatever but I just don't see the point.
I talk to who I want to talk to already and if I want to see how someone is doing I pick up the phone or send them a note.
 I don't see how it takes any longer than logging on to a computer and looking someone up and then writing them a message that way.
It seems the world gets more impersonal by the day.
I will e-mail people if I am already on the computer but don't make a point of doing it as my mode of contact.

I prefer face time myself to get to know my people.
But then I have found the most interesting people I know are the ones who reveal themselves slowly, you find these great little bits of information about them here and there as you get to know them, rather than the ones that lay everything out on the table at once as they do in those profiles or pages or whatever they are called.
Personal info overload.

As for seeing not only bragging but complete fabrications on these groups, absolutely have seen it.

It wasn't all that long ago I was visiting a friend who knows that I don't do those social groups so I would not have seen some of the stuff she had seen and wanted to show it to me.
So she brings me over to the computer to show me a picture of someone I know that is "acting" like a biker, posting pictures of her posing on a motorcycle and writing all this ridiculous stuff and it was not even close to the truth.
 She also wrote about how she has a vacation place in the next state over, which is actually a camper that she leaves on her sister in law's property because she doesn't have room at her house.
I have known her my entire life. The life she portrayed was a fantasy.

Then there was a guy I know who is married and the father of 4 who wrote all about this great life he leads, only it was all completely untrue.
He was bragging about things that he does not own or were really misrepresented, as in him leaning against "his" hot rod car, please, he listed hobbies he does not partake in and failed to mention in all his musings that he is married with 4 kids.
How do I know this all to be lies? He is married to my best friend.

Thats a major consideration in these social groups and any online outlet, anyone can make up anything they want to and portray themselves in any light they feel like. So who is to say what is true and real and who is embellishing their lives?
Some of the stuff they say is partially true but grossly exaggerated others are outright lies.

Its always seemed to me that when people feel the need to talk themselves up its because their life is lacking somewhere else and they need an outlet to pump themselves up and maybe even a way to portray themselves as how they wish they really were.

No one is going to write that their life blows, they are stuck in a dead end job, their marriage is the pits, their kids are out of control, they are going bald, they gained weight, they are broke.....

I have to wonder why these people don't stop to think that maybe someone who really knows them will read what they wrote and call them out on it.
They have this unrealistic sense of annonymity on the internet.
Some were blatant and others just found a way to squeeze things in here in there. Like oh the weather is so nice out today and speaking of weather did you know that I just got a promotion and speaking of today did you hear I have more money than you?
I see that happen in any online type of outlet including forums though so its not just those groups.

There is a huge difference between sharing things about your life and showing off.

How about the people who were showing off their pictures and stories of whatever(obviously less than desirable) activity they were doing and then couldn't get a job or got fired for their antics because their employer or potential employer saw what they posted?





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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2009, 10:41:39 AM »

another twitter use:  the bee store in town sent out twitter messages when the nucs and packages arrived.  no on had to worry about checking email.  it went right to their phone.  one message from the store reached everyone who was signed up, no matter where they were.

on facebook, i have reconnected with people i have known over the years.  we have activity groups....like beemasters group, and red cross groups.

now....some people do post on there  every 5 seconds and post some stupid crap, but for most i think it's just a way to keep in touch.

i wonder what will happen when the EMP goes off?  all these disconnected folks are going to have a melt down  grin   evil
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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2009, 08:18:24 PM »

Natalie, I was pointing out that not everyone is using Facebook to brag, and you've seen differently - so we'll have to agree to disagree.  I'm thankful I don't have to deal with people like that, it isn't something that interests me.  

KathyP uses these tools as I do.  I pick up the phone, too, but I can't show a picture via the phone (yea, I know, you can with cell phones, but I don't use my phone that way).  It's all in how you choose to use it, I don't look down on these tools, because that's all they are - tools.
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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2009, 09:55:07 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2009, 05:19:14 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2009, 06:08:10 PM »

because that's all they are - tools.
Exactly! When my wife writes a new blog or a article about a new product, she'll post it on FB and tweet about it. Then it will reach the people that follow her on twitter and FB instantly. She is using them as marketing tools not a social network. On the other hand, I'm on FB for the social networking. But if you vist me FB page you'd see that I recently posted, I robbed the bees, extracted the honey, and it will soon be for sale. So maybe I'm not just using it as a social thing.
we have activity groups....like beemasters group
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2009, 06:26:55 PM »

There's a Beemaster group?  How did I not know this??  I'm off to Facebook.....hmmmm, can't find it on a search.  Anyone have a link?  Nevermind, found it!
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« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2009, 08:04:48 PM »

There's a Beemaster group?  How did I not know this??  I'm off to Facebook.....hmmmm, can't find it on a search.  Anyone have a link?  Nevermind, found it!
How'd you find it...I can't? I'll go look again.
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« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2009, 08:14:08 PM »

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There's a Beemaster group?  How did I not know this??  I'm off to Facebook.....hmmmm, can't find it on a search.  Anyone have a link?  Nevermind, found it!
How'd you find it...I can't? I'll go look again.
Search Beekeeping, that's how I found it.
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« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2009, 10:15:46 PM »

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