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Author Topic: Open frames w/starter strip question? Their not touching it..  (Read 555 times)
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« on: May 18, 2009, 12:06:02 PM »

Hello,

I tried taking some frames that I had from last year which had bits of leftover comb from cuttting it out to crush and strain.
Then took some foundation I had and cut it into 1"-1/4 strips and installed it along the bottom of the frame.
Took 3 frames that were 50% drawn and put them in the center of the super, and the rest just had the starter strips.
I put the super on 2 weeks ago as soon as the dandilions started to pop.

They haven't touched it and I don't get it??
I'm thinking that it's because they don't need the storage yet, or because there was a flow on.......or  possilbly both reasons?
There are bees in there but only on the center frames w/the drawn comb.

Sure would like some advise on this one, I never tried this before.
I had visions of beautiful drawn comb w/no foundation for cut comb honey.
I also wanted to let them create the cell size's to their specs  Wink
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2009, 12:12:21 PM »

no flow = no comb.  they may not need it.  what do the stores in the hive look like? 

starter strips go at the top of the frame.  if you have wax on the frames from cut comb, you probably don't need anything else.  they may be on the full foundation sheet because it's kind of like a ladder for them.  when they need it, they will build it out.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 08:05:27 PM »

no flow = no comb.  they may not need it.  what do the stores in the hive look like? 

starter strips go at the top of the frame.  if you have wax on the frames from cut comb, you probably don't need anything else.  they may be on the full foundation sheet because it's kind of like a ladder for them.  when they need it, they will build it out.

Kathyp, thanks for your response.

**no flow = no comb
great answer...I did not know that.
I thought they would buildup before a flow.
With dandelions, apple blossoms and such I thought it would be "flow city" but it's my 1st spring so I wasn't sure what to expect.

**starter strips go at the top of the frame.
yes, that's where they are.

**if you have wax on the frames from cut comb, you probably don't need anything else.
cool, that sound great to me I have about 20 more.

**what do the stores in the hive look like?
I haven't been able to check for about 3 weeks.
Their honey was light, plenty pollen, started feeding them but they didn't take much, I stopped when the dandelions popped.
Apparently the weather has not seen my schedule.
Its been real rainy, some nice day's in between but the north wind will not relent.
This week looks good for an inspection 70's by Fri.

I think I may have too many supers...might have jumped the gun on adding that last one.
I'm sure your right they just don't need it yet.
Note to self...learn Patience  grin

Thanks again, great info!
Paul


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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 11:08:14 PM »

Another thing that will arrest the growth of a hive, even during a honey flow is the population.  If they don't have sufficient bees to cover the combs they already have they won't draw more comb until enough brood has hatched so that the existing combs are crowded and then they'll resume comb buiilding.  Bees will only draw new combs if the population grows sufficiently to warrant it, and there is room for the comb within the hive. 

Once they run out of room to build comb they will switch to swarm mode, even late in the season, which is why timely supering is important. 
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