bush did some things that made me really mad.
unfortunatly, some of the things he did that didn't make me mad, are going to make it much easier for this president and this congress to expand the role of government.
It's obvious to me that the things he did that made you mad aren't the things he did that made me mad... but that's why I said I think you're a neocon.
The fact that anyone could use those things to expand the role of government are precisely why they were horrible things to do and should have made you mad if you were a true conservative.
the tools bush used to make us safer may be the very tools that this president uses to suppress liberties.
Bush didn't make us any safer. Safety is an illusion to begin with. Also, a strong national defense does not need to take away anyone's freedom.
obama does not care about personal liberty
So far I haven't seen any evidence to support that.
he cares about the "greater good".
Personal liberty is the greater good, there is no reason you can't have both.
he obviously does not care about national security, or he doesn't understand it, which may be worse.
The only thing I think you might be referring to here is leaving Iraq... and quite frankly, I agree with Obama on that one... I was for the war in Iraq, but not for the rebuilding of Iraq. We should have left after we hung Saddam and tracked down the other key terrorist leaders we had evidence of being there without trying to rebuild them. If that leaves them unstable and another group we don't like takes control, there's no reason we can't go back... even if he had to go back later, we'd still be thousands of lives and trillions of dollars ahead of where we are now that we've overstayed our purpose.
what part of his agenda do you like? what part do you want to see succeed.
I like the idea of leaving Iraq, and concentrating our forces in Afghanistan (and hopefully Pakistan soon) because we haven't accomplished our objectives there yet.
I also like the White House bee hive, and I want to see the vegetable garden succeed. I know many of you think that's only a gesture, and it is... it's a gesture that's meant to encourage other people to do the same. I believe that the best way out of this recession is for people to become more productive. Put down the x-box, turn off the t.v., maybe even step away from the keyboard and create something of value where there wasn't anything before. If every adult grew just $20 worth of vegetables (on top of what farmers already produce), it would raise the real GDP by around $5 billion. $20 worth of veggies is easy to grow, I could grow that much on the desk I'm sitting at. This is why "victory gardens" were encouraged during WWII.
I don't like the omnibus spending bill, but since it already passed I do hope it succeeds in helping the economy recover... unfortuneately both parties were shoving those stimulus bills down our throats, so it's not like we had any party to turn to there.
I also like most of his energy policies that encourage moving away from gasoline and coal. The sooner we ditch them, the better.
i find it hard to see you as a fan of Reagan if Obamas policies are not making your hair stand on end.
I find it easy. While I don't like some of the things Obama is doing, none of them so far is soo bad that it warrants fear and hysteria...
Reagan believed in personal responsibility, limited government, and lower taxes. he also believe in keeping the secrets of our intel community and growing our military.
Apart from the stimulous bill which both parties did, I do not think Obama is getting off that track by a huge degree. Yes Obama believes in less personal responsibility than Reagan did, yes he believes in a less limited government than Reagan did, at this point I don't even think we can pay the national debt without either making drastic cuts to the size and scope of government which we both know would have a snowballs chance in hell of getting passed no matter which party were in office, or by raising taxes... I do think Obama belives in keeping secrets of our intel community (Obama is not Clinton), finally, yes Obama believes in less military spending than Reagan did... but all that puts Obama on the moderate side of liberal, not communist.