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Author Topic: new method of using lemongrass oil as swarm lure  (Read 7820 times)
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« on: March 10, 2009, 09:33:00 PM »

just wanted to share an idea that seems to be working for me here in Louisiana.

as we all have read lemongrass oil is great for a swarm lure, but if the trap is in place for a long time the smell can dwindle down to nothing.
the bee supply companies are using a small palstic vial for their swarm lure but finding the vials to use with lemongrass oil is not easy! i haven't found them yet!

what i have done is take a lab quality pipette ( all plastic) and used it as the vial for the lemongrass oil swarm lure.

the pipette has a large bulb on the end which i cut off, i then reseal the end using a hemostat to clamp the end and a soldering iron as a heat source to melt and seal the end.
i then take the pipette and draw up the lemongrass oil into it.  i make sure the oil all goes down to the newly sealed botton and then i set it upright for a while to allow all the oil on the sides to run down to the bottom. ( i set it into a piece of old junk comb and this holds it fine )

i then express some of the air that is left in the pipette and clamp the top end just above the oil level with the hemostat. this prevents blowing the new sealed end out of the bottom from compression.
burn the rest off just above the hemostat with the soldering iron and save the remainder of the pipette for another lure.

the result is lemongrass oil in a vial that is slightly less dense than the commercial ones and they emit the smell just as well if not better.

i have them in traps that are deployed around my area and i am seeing scout bees investigating my swarm traps with great interest.

the cost is much less than the commercial lures and i believe they will last just as long.

pipettes are used in hospital labs, doctor offices and other places that handle urine.

if you have the good fortune to have a doctor friend there is your source for them.

hope this helps and saves y'all the cost of the lures.

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2009, 09:43:30 PM »

I love the idea. I was at Bailey's place last week and was impressed with his idea with the pipettes. Especially with swarm lure vials going for $3.50 a pop!


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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2009, 09:45:38 PM »

the scout bees were really checking out the trap at my work this afternoon.

those vials were made 3 weeks ago and they still smell as strong as the day i made them.

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 09:49:12 PM »

I like 'em better than the Dadant vials because they are a little more porous which in my opinion makes the lemon grass scent emanate better.


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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2009, 10:04:46 PM »

Hey, Bjornbee, I know you can't advertise here, but you can answer a question. Are you selling the lures this year, and are they still less than 2.00 each?
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 06:33:41 AM »

Hey, Bjornbee, I know you can't advertise here, but you can answer a question. Are you selling the lures this year, and are they still less than 2.00 each?
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 08:54:40 AM »

If you have ever watched the CSI shows on TV, the little pastic vials that they spin out DNA stuff is what I use.  I bought a large quanity of them for K9 trapping many years ago.  Lure in the bottom plugged with cotton and layed on its side last many weeks.  They come with a plastic plug so they cane be made up ahead of time.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 09:52:31 AM »

I made a swarm lure last year of olive oil, beeswax and lemon grass oil.  The formula came from a Greek beekeeper who shared it with me.  It still smells very strongly of lemongrass - I just put it on an empty hive box today.  It's easy to smear and I keep it closed up in a pimento jar...cleaned first, of course!

http://beekeeperlinda.blogspot.com/2008/02/spring-is-coming-invitation-to-swarm.html

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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 09:56:17 AM »

If you have ever watched the CSI shows on TV, the little pastic vials that they spin out DNA stuff is what I use.  I bought a large quanity of them for K9 trapping many years ago.  Lure in the bottom plugged with cotton and layed on its side last many weeks.  They come with a plastic plug so they cane be made up ahead of time.

danno, they are called centrifuge tubes.

I like the idea of the cotton.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 09:57:51 AM »

I have good luck and I think have a simpler way !

Melt a 1/4 cup bees wax 2 3/4 oz warm canola oil, mix and put in small jar with some room at the top. Let cool "some" then mix in Pure Lemon Grass oil & spearmint oil. If mixture is hot oils will evaporate !!

Rub on frame tops, inside box, entrance, etc.

Notice I said " Pure Lemon Grass oil " there is a difference.

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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2009, 10:00:09 AM »



Notice I said " Pure Lemon Grass oil " there is a difference.

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And in my research, there is a wide range of what makes up pure lemon grass oil, based on the extraction method.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2009, 10:46:27 AM »

Bud on this forum places his lemon grass oil in a prescription medicine bottle w/paper towels. Drills a very small hole about the size of a point on a ballpoint pin in the top. And puts a few drops of oil on the towel.

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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2009, 12:22:38 PM »

Tillie.  Oh, every time I take a walk through your site, you befuddle me.  I take my hat off to you girl!!!  You have done such a marvelous job of everything in there, you are explicit and it is so easy to follow your directions, yay!!!  You go girl, and keep up that wonderful work, you are coming a very close second to the site of Michael Bush, with so many years less experience, you are doing excellent!!!  Have that best of a most wonderful and awesome day, Cindi
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2009, 11:56:50 AM »

Thanks, Cindy - the blog is so much fun and I now am in contact with beekeepers from all over the world - which is a nice plus.  I put a world map on the bottom of the blog page so I could see where they all come from.  I like taking pictures and keeping up the blog keeps me on top of things.  You're sweet to say such nice things, though.

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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2009, 02:28:09 PM »

Great thread  grin

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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 03:20:16 PM »


I don't think so (HBH) --- the lemon grass oil supposedly simulates Bee Nasonov pheromone.

The below link mentions Citral which has a strong lemon odor,geraniol also has a lemon odor:

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Nasonov
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2009, 01:52:41 PM »

Thanks, Cindy - the blog is so much fun and I now am in contact with beekeepers from all over the world - which is a nice plus.  I put a world map on the bottom of the blog page so I could see where they all come from.  I like taking pictures and keeping up the blog keeps me on top of things.  You're sweet to say such nice things, though.

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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2009, 12:59:14 AM »

RE: HBH - I would assume that HBH would work as a swarm lure at least to some degree as one of the main ingredients is lemongrass oil.  lemongrass oil is cheaper.

Bjorn- would you care to share any tips on what makes a "good" lemongrass oil (ie what extraction methods are to be prefered0
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2009, 01:18:47 PM »

Duh  shocked ---- yea I wasn't thinking> The HBH does have Lemongrass oil but I imagine the more concentrated essential oils would be better.
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