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« on: March 05, 2009, 01:12:33 PM »

Today is about the first day of spring with temps above freezing.....  tues  we were frozen in...  yet today  3-5  at noon,  my bees are bring in pollen.... and quite a bit of it...... not a darn thing green as of yet and no buds or flower I see...  anybody have a clue?   I am in southern Il......about the st. louis line.....
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 01:17:51 PM »

There are usually some kind of weed blooming early.  In January, my bees were bringing in loads of pollen.  I understand that the bees are gathering from some small, low growing plants that we probably overlook as well as aster pollens from last fall.

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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 01:22:16 PM »

Beats me.. I have sat there and watched mine pack it in wondering where in the world it's coming from. I think it is left overs from the fall  huh
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 01:33:59 PM »

Some type of Maple tree here is blooming, some Willows are in full bloom, Crocuses and Dandelions are blooming now. Something else I think called Skunk Weed or Skunk cabbage is also blooming.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 02:39:27 PM »

got to 51 F. here in Girard Pa today. Third time this since November the bees got out to fly. If they are still flying after work I am going to see if they are bringing in any pollen.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 02:40:15 PM »

Not saying they are not collecting from plants, but I've seen bees collect from bird feeders, cattle troughs, and from sawdust piles.

And when it's on the back of their legs, it all looks like pollen.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 03:21:07 PM »

good point with false pollens...  I can't imagine left overs from last years......  and the only thing green here yet is the pine trees.   the grass is got a cpl spots the are starting to green a bit.....  My yard is full of maples and as of yet they are not budded.....
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2009, 03:24:08 PM »

Up your way I believe you may have Alder trees?  Seems like someone mentioned that a couple of weeks ago.  Some of the maple flowers are very tiny and brown, so they are hard to see.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2009, 05:31:10 PM »

 Usually Red Maple is the first in my area.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 09:02:35 PM »

Hi, I noticed the same thing here today. (WV) I saw both a whitish and an orange pollen. I believe it is red maple and  crocus.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 09:42:55 PM »

older beeks here say the greenish color is maple.
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2009, 10:01:44 PM »

bleep Willows???
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2009, 10:37:13 PM »

Could be maple. Have you checked the NASA Forage map for your area?
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2009, 01:45:29 AM »

I have a wild life feeder with cracked corn in it , the last couple of days here in southeast Iowa the honeybees have been rolling in the cracked corn by the thousands .
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2009, 08:36:20 AM »

why are they rolling in cracked corn?
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2009, 09:11:40 AM »

corn does have a lot og flutten and protien...  cracked corn would make it accesable to bees....  interesting thought as we feed   yard chickens....   
The pollen I am seeing is very light collored....  red maples may be possible....  not many around  here.   No alders at all......    We will have soft maples blooming in a day or so....  buds grem 3/8 yesterday alone.

No crocus or wild flower yet,  probably by tomorrow....  Just struck me as very odd only 24 hours out of a 3 week below freezing spell...

What is the NASA forage map???
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2009, 10:02:28 AM »

http://honeybeenet.gsfc.nasa.gov/Honeybees/Forage_info.htm

Lists bloom dates for different regions.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2009, 10:19:27 AM »

why are they rolling in cracked corn?
They seem to use it for a pollen substitute ,don't know if its good for them but they roll in it til they are covered and can barely fly.I dumped a bag of corn meal into the feeder and they really went after that.The cracked corn has fine corn dust similiar to the pollen.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2009, 11:01:42 AM »

I haven't seen anything blooming as of yet either, but the maples look like they are going to pop any day.  We also have numerous crocus and other bulb flowers that have buds that haven't opened yet.  Still waiting to see my first dandelion.
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2009, 07:03:09 PM »

Went out today....and Pollen! Two types. I actually tasted a dropped pellet, and it's pollen. I looked around and did'nt find anything. But the bees were headed off in the direction of a southern facing ridge with lots of maples.  piano
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2009, 10:09:19 AM »

Well we now have  crocus and maples.....  so its too late to figure it out...   Checked all teh hives yesterday,  and lots of pollen stored already...  brood in some,  last years questionable queens are still that....    gota get some new ones quick!
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2009, 11:13:56 AM »

If they are using the corn meal, I wonder what they would do with soybean meal?  Corn is only 7.5-8% protein and soybean meal would be anywhere from 44% to 46%.  Not sure if they would take to soybean meal though.  Just a thought if more protein would be beneficial.

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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2009, 11:40:48 AM »

http://honeybeenet.gsfc.nasa.gov/Honeybees/Forage_info.htm

Lists bloom dates for different regions.


That is a pretty good source.  Use that for a starting idea of what natives (seems they're not listing non-natives, at least for my area), check outside to see if they are indeed actually in bloom, and then perhaps cross-check with wiki pollen source for pollen color confirmation.

After a record cold/snowy Winter, we've had quite a few semi-warm (50-60°F) days so far this year.  In January-Feb mine were bringing in Hazelnut pollen (orchards are quite close by) and now they are also bringing in Alder and, possibly, the first dandelion.  Next the dandelions will really come in with the Willow and Maples and that first black pollen from all the tulips.  That's the real start of the season here and then it just accelerates with all the fruit trees, etc.,.  Yeah Spring!! I can't wait!

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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2009, 11:45:21 AM »

How about pussywillow's it is greenish in in color ?





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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2009, 12:11:33 PM »

bleep Willows???

 I live in N Central MA. the first pollen is shunk cabbage last of Feb. first of March is pussywillow's and maple tree's


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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2009, 12:48:41 PM »

Here in southeastern Colorado the dandelions are blooming I I just saw some of the trees, unknown kind, are blooming. The trees have big red blooms and lots of them. No green grass or flowers yet. I did see the catmint, Salvia, and others are all cmoing through the ground.
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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2009, 04:09:30 PM »

sounds like you're wondering the same thing i was about a month ago here in S.C. mine where bringing in a lot of pale green colored pollen. i had to look really hard(after i posted a ? here) to find a mossy looking little ground cover weed that had small green blooms about the size of a pencil head. they were wearing them out. you have to remember, GOD cares for these amazing little creatures.
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