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Who has watched this garbage? I watched it last night for the first time because on a preview they talked about honeybees, and I wanted to see how they would handle them. Well seems the correct way to remove honeybees is with silica. The idiot went on and on about how by using silica ,which does not affect humans, he is saving the planet and it was his secret. The show is an absolute terrible waste of 30 mins. I had a bad feeling the rest of the night.
Keith
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 04:58:49 PM » |
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Was this that new show? The same guys from the verminator? Do they all wear black with skull and crossbones?
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Keith13
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 05:41:52 PM » |
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thats is the idiot in question. For his "bee suit" he wore a vinyl skeleton facemask, he had a black boa with feathers around his neck, and some sort of plastic suit on. Guy was a freakin clown.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 11:37:14 PM » |
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I'm glad I missed the show, it would have p'd me off to no end. I may have to look into this though cause I believe they are from Shreveport.
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Brian D. Bray
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 11:52:52 PM » |
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I watched the show once. That episode was not about bees but those guys were doing things no self-respecting exterminator would do. The act more like a but of amatuers posing for the camera. It's a TV series, logic, reality, or following the rules does not apply.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2009, 12:09:05 AM » |
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I'm not defending them by any stretch of the imagination, but you have to think they are being coached on how to act, speak etc... Take 25! Now lets try the scene with you standing on your head throwing darts at the rat you will explode with tnt in the next take.  ...JP |
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Keith13
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2009, 08:49:43 AM » |
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The show did make mention of Louisiana but I did not recognize anything. Very possible it may be Shreveport I rarely get up that way.
Brian I understand it is a TV show but still doesn't change the fact the bees are dead and a whole new audience believes that is the correct way to deal with a hive in the wall.
Also in the episode I watched w/ the bees, the whole time the idiot is standing two feet away from the entrance knocking on the hole, talking to the camera saying these very well could be killer bees. As much hoping and praying that I was doing no such luck they were not killer bees, that was a shame. Anyway I don't even think they have Africanized bees in Shreveport, but I may be wrong
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2009, 09:58:32 AM » |
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Keith, afbs have entered right above Shreveport in 05. Since then in the entire state I have only heard of a small handfull of accounts.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2009, 10:13:56 AM » |
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Jp have you come across any down in the NOLA area?
Keith
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2009, 07:10:41 PM » |
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I have been very near to dealing with them a few times, in Chalmette and Meraux. On these occasions they were discovered a week before and a week after I was in those same areas.
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Brian D. Bray
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2009, 10:41:43 PM » |
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The show did make mention of Louisiana but I did not recognize anything. Very possible it may be Shreveport I rarely get up that way.
Brian I understand it is a TV show but still doesn't change the fact the bees are dead and a whole new audience believes that is the correct way to deal with a hive in the wall.
Also in the episode I watched w/ the bees, the whole time the idiot is standing two feet away from the entrance knocking on the hole, talking to the camera saying these very well could be killer bees. As much hoping and praying that I was doing no such luck they were not killer bees, that was a shame. Anyway I don't even think they have Africanized bees in Shreveport, but I may be wrong
Keith
I was being sarcastic. I refuse to watch the show after viewing it for about 15 minutes. The manner in which they approached the "job" was reckless and theatrical. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2009, 12:38:55 AM » |
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So I just watched the show where they killed the colony in the wall void.
Sent them an e-mail: "I just now finished watching a show where you killed a colony of honeybees that could have been removed live and relocated. Any beekeeper would have been happy to have that colony. I would recommend you contact local beekeepers in your area that could assist you or teach your company to perform live removals.
The hive you killed was not Africanized and it was a travesty to see them on television being killed, when they could have easily been saved.
I am a beekeeper and a licensed pco out of New Orleans who removes honeybees from structures. I learned to remove them live because they are a beneficial insect.
On this segment you admit, correctly, I might add, that the colony and its contents need to be removed. Why not remove them live since you have to access the void space they occupy anyway? I urge you to look into ways to perform live removals, it is the responsible thing to do.
I am sure I am not the first nor will I be the last to contact you regarding this episode.
Enjoyed the segment on bat removal by the way."
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2009, 06:52:00 PM » |
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So, I just got a response back from Vex-con and am taking my own advice about not contacting them right away cause I am po'd.
In a second I will have their response for all of you to see. I would like your opinions on their response, any suggestions or opinions on your part may be incorporated in my response to them.
Here is the email they sent me:
Dear Jeff,
I'm sorry but I have to respectively tell you that you are dead wrong when
you say "Any beekeeper would have been happy to have that colony". We don't
like killing them either but sometimes you have to do things you don't like
if you want to help "PEOPLE". We recommend to most people that they contact
a bee keeper before we come out because we are going to exterminate them if
we come out. Most of the time they tell us they have and we are their last
resort. Just so you know some of the biggest bee kills I have seen have
been done by bee keepers.
The reasons we are given by local bee keepers for their refusal to respond
to these type of populations is that it is irresponsible to keep bees like
the one you saw on TV for the following reasons:
1.) The bees may be contaminated from pollen gathered from flowers treated
with insecticides and other chemicals not known to the keeper.
2.) There may be drones that serve no useful purpose but to eat but not
produce.
3.) The Africaization of honey bees is a process and they don't want
aggressive bees in their hives.
Another fact is that we are getting calls and e-mails from all over the
country wanting help with honey bees that are putiing "PEOPLE" at risk.
They are desparate and can not get bee keepers or pest control companies to
come help them.
I'm sorry but this problem is not as simple as you seem to think it is and
Vexcon isn't going to have much of an impact not matter what we do. Oh,
before I forget we do know how to do live removals. But nobody wants them
and it drives the cost up for us to relocate them. With the government
taking 50% of every dollar we earn we can't afford to eat the cost
ourselves.
I applaud your efforts to save the bees in New Orleans but you are rare from
a pco perspective. I would like to again emphasis that we don't like
killing honey bees either. It is probably our least favorite thing to do
and before doing it, we do determine if there is an alternative, such as
just letting them finish their rest and let them move on.
One more thing. We have gotten a lot of e-mail from people that would like
to see them saved.
Thanks again for taking the time to email us.
So, what do you think? Clueless or what!
...JP
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2009, 10:02:59 PM » |
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Well we could look at this as an opportunity for local beekeepers to get on the call list of this company. If they are sincere they may welcome a list of local contacts they can call to pass live colonies on to. Free bees.
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2009, 10:12:34 PM » |
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He was exterminating a very large hive, he estimated there to be 5000 to 7000 bees if I'm not mistaken. It looked like 10 times that at least. I believe this guy was first on the dirty jobs show. It was also noted that he was so pest friendly by live trapping a raccoon, kind of hypocritical I thought.
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2009, 10:57:23 PM » |
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They say they do live removals, how many here believe that statement after seeing the guy deal with that hive?
He was a novice at best in re to the biology of honeybees.
How about these statements:
1.) The bees may be contaminated from pollen gathered from flowers treated
with insecticides and other chemicals not known to the keeper.
2.) There may be drones that serve no useful purpose but to eat but not
produce.
3.) The Africaization of honey bees is a process and they don't want
aggressive bees in their hives.
These 3 statements show a total lack of knowledge of bees on their part. These statements are quite comical actually.
Any hive, anywhere is subject to contamination issues.
How about #2, what? freeloading drones?
3) What? Can you make sense out of this statement?
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Jerrymac
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2009, 11:04:48 PM » |
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He don't know nuttin'
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2009, 11:09:17 PM » |
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I agree Jerry, looks like a bunch of backpeddling to me.
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Brian D. Bray
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2009, 10:26:42 PM » |
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I agree Jerry, looks like a bunch of backpeddling to me.
...JP
It's TV. They're looking for visual impact and the fear factor as entertainment. They don't believe that s spot showing the removal and relocation of the bees would be high in viewers. Wrong, they would not only have as large of an audience, but get a lot of email thinking them for their efforts. This is, again, the shortsighted, ignorant, justification given out by "show buisiness" to justify what they do, it's called creative realism. It;s this same kind of mentality that brings such superflicious shows as Survivor, Biggest Loser, and that one where people race around the world looking for somethin. Reality shows are not reality in in way it is journalist license at it's worst. |
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2009, 05:36:34 PM » |
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the statement he said about letting them finish their rest and then move on struck me as odd.
It makes me think they walk up to swarms in the open and kill those as well
Guys an idiot
Keith
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