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« on: February 16, 2009, 04:06:01 PM »

Ex-Astronaut: Global Warming Is Bunk
Monday, February 16, 2009 

Print SANTA FE, N.M. —  Former astronaut Harrison Schmitt, who walked on the moon and once served New Mexico in the U.S. Senate, doesn't believe that humans are causing global warming.

"I don't think the human effect is significant compared to the natural effect," said Schmitt, who is among 70 skeptics scheduled to speak next month at the International Conference on Climate Change in New York.

Schmitt contends that scientists "are being intimidated" if they disagree with the idea that burning fossil fuels has increased carbon dioxide levels, temperatures and sea levels.

"They've seen too many of their colleagues lose grant funding when they haven't gone along with the so-called political consensus that we're in a human-caused global warming," Schmitt said.

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Dan Williams, publisher with the Chicago-based Heartland Institute, which is hosting the climate change conference, said he invited Schmitt after reading about his resignation from The Planetary Society, a nonprofit dedicated to space exploration.

Schmitt resigned after the group blamed global warming on human activity.

In his resignation letter, the 74-year-old geologist argued that the "global warming scare is being used as a political tool to increase government control over American lives, incomes and decision-making."

Williams said Heartland is skeptical about the crisis that people are proclaiming in global warming.

"Not that the planet hasn't warmed. We know it has or we'd all still be in the Ice Age," he said. "But it has not reached a crisis proportion and, even among us skeptics, there's disagreement about how much man has been responsible for that warming."

Schmitt said historical documents indicate average temperatures have risen by 1 degree per century since around 1400 A.D., and the rise in carbon dioxide is because of the temperature rise.

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Schmitt also said geological evidence indicates changes in sea level have been going on for thousands of years. He said smaller changes are related to changes in the elevation of land masses — for example, the Great Lakes are rising because the earth's crust is rebounding from being depressed by glaciers.

Schmitt, who grew up in Silver City and now lives in Albuquerque, has a science degree from the California Institute of Technology. He also studied geology at the University of Oslo in Norway and took a doctorate in geology from Harvard University in 1964.

In 1972, he was one of the last men to walk on the moon as part of the Apollo 17 mission.

Schmitt said he's heartened that the upcoming conference is made up of scientists who haven't been manipulated by politics.

Of the global warming debate, he said: "It's one of the few times you've seen a sizable portion of scientists who ought to be objective take a political position and it's coloring their objectivity."

Seems global warming is driven by grant money not green house gases

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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 05:57:03 PM »

It's about time somebody woke them up. Thanks for posting it.

"Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me . . . Anything can happen, child. Anything can be"

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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 09:28:25 PM »

Politics is in everything.  Makes a person wonder.

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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 10:30:55 PM »

Well what does he know about it? He only landed on the moon, which was made up anyway since we all know it's made of cheese. Besides, Al Gore said "the science on this is all settled" and HE has a Nobel prize AND a big expensive house. Ya gotta know who to listen to!  rolleyes
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 11:27:34 PM »

I don't know.  I'm not a politician nor a scientist. Seems to me that both sides are making valid points.  For each argument there seems to be a counter argument.  And both sides are just as certain the other is wrong.  Guess in a few years the planet will us know. Smiley Cry Undecided
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2009, 02:32:53 AM »

Maybe this belongs on the favorite quotes page but it seems more apropos here.

When you see or hear a lot of hot air, the ground is usually covered in BS.

Life is a school.  What have you learned?   Brian      The greatest danger to our society is apathy, vote in every election!
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 06:50:42 AM »

The "Stimulus Package" that Pres. Obama is expected to sign today has about a half-billion dollars for global warming research, about $2.5 billion for "carbon capture" demonstration projects, and several other line items related to global warming. Scientists who don't believe in global warming won't be getting handouts. Researchers at universities who bring in multi-million dollar grants for global warming studies will get accolades, promotions and tenure. Those that don't believe in global warming will get stuck teaching Freshman remedial science.
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howdy all

« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2009, 10:53:25 AM »

Seems global warming is driven by grant money not green house gases

You got that one right Keith.

The same go's for the salmon recovery.

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