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« on: January 20, 2009, 11:02:44 AM »

I know most on this forum are displeased , but I am not. Regardless of choice, I am truly astounded that very four years one of the world's most powerful nations can peacefully transfer power without violence. If nothing else, celebrate that!
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 11:22:57 AM »

I'm not displeased, we desperately need new blood in the white house.


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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 11:24:59 AM »

HOORAY, I thought I was the only one in the Obama corner.  I am thrilled.  I join you in celebration!

Peace Out,


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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 11:27:40 AM »

Regardless of the choice, the people have spoken.  I wish the new president all the luck, he'll need it.  Certainly many things will be on his plate.  Hopefully congress will be helpful during his term.

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2009, 11:56:19 AM »

i am not pleased with the choice, but i celebrate the process.  we are one of the few nations that do this and do it without violence.  and...congratulations to those who are pleased  grin
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2009, 12:04:40 PM »

Kathy,

You have class! Great response.

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2009, 12:10:40 PM »

Kathy,

You have class! Great response.

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She really meant to say she is pleased because she voted for Obama, her hero.


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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2009, 12:50:18 PM »

We are all in this together, let's ALL work for the greater good.  My plan for myself, become more involved in helping our great nation, in whatever way I can~

Let us remain on a path of positive thinking.

One of my past Zen teachers told me that hope was the greatest illusion, long live illusion then...because as a human being, I have hope...
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2009, 01:10:42 PM »

I just checked my gas tank, it was empty and now its full! And my farts just started smelling like roses!!!

Seriously, it is an exciting momentous time in history.  He can sure give inspiring speeches.  I feel sorry for him, he's starting at the top and has only one way to go.

I am worried for the future, though...
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2009, 01:16:47 PM »

'Thought become things, choose the good ones'

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2009, 01:19:54 PM »

he's going to have his hands full with nancy and harry!  JP, tell me the truth  now.  am i having a problem communicating??  Kiss

no president does everything wrong, or everything right.  well....carter might be an exception....  they all make mistakes that have ramifications far into the future and are not recognized until much later.  they all do things right that take may years to be recognized.  some decisions we  pass judgment on immediately in the light of known history, but even then, previously unknown circumstances can prove us wrong.

if obama remembers that it is the individual effort that makes this country great, and not the government program, he will do a good job.  
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2009, 01:36:15 PM »

I like the whole Obama Biden thing - what we are doing now isn't working, let's spend more and borrow it from a National Debt to pay for it - lol.

God Bless out new President I say, I hope he lives up to all his own campaigne's hype.

Most of all, God Bless America, we need to look hard at the way we have let corporate business and banking run us to the ground. We will continue paying for everything until the US GOVERNMENT is the 51% stockholder of ALL AMERICAN COMPAINES - with or without FOREIGN INTERESTS.

I do things and realize that we are blessed, but even the foretold one OBAMA himself said he is NOT going to straignten out tis mess in just 4 years - he's a shoe in even if we are staying afloat. Expect an ADMINSTATION LEGACY of 16 YEARS - of course and old Biden won't stand a chance for a second term as President. He'll come down with John McCane Disease  catch chick a sure ticket to a ONE TERM PRESIDENCY. so I see 12 YEARS of DEMOCRATIC CONTROL - let's see if the REPUBLICANS can find a magic as the DEMS found or made Obama. 12 YEARS.

I wish them and us well.

But come on REPUBLICANS, you need a near middle of Conservative stance  and charasmatic attraction to blow away ANYTHING the DEMS would have in 12 years. You have 12 years to make a candidate, get going GOP.

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2009, 01:37:20 PM »

And thus starts the crashing of peoples hopes. Back to reality that government does not, will not, and never has, provided for one's happiness or dreams.

I hope him well. I do not expect much. And I never have from Government. And for those who think their lives will change in amounts of one end of the spectrum to another, based on who sits in the whitehouse, I feel truly sorry for them.

OBama has made many promises. Many people after today will be sitting in their homes waiting for the government to change their lives with everything from free education to millions of new industrial high paying jobs. NAFTA will be rewritten, and socialized healthcare is around the corner. Or so I heard.

Seems like I heard this before with Nancy P.  Seems those promises went by the wayside. I expect much of the same with OBama. I did read that Nancy was jumping the gun and just yesterday was proposing ending the Bush tax cuts.

Yes, this is going to be interesting.  

Let me know when something big happens.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2009, 02:44:26 PM »

I'm not displeased, we desperately need new blood in the white house.


...JP

too bad that's not happening,  looks like the same old liberal dems to me.

Not my choice, but I wish for the best.   But as like others have said previously,  I'm not expecting much, so I won't be hurt as bad as all those who think they never have to worry about paying insurance or put heating oil into their fuel tank.  These are the people that that will be devastated.


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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2009, 03:06:28 PM »

what can i say,  i wish him well,  i just hope that we can someday get common sense back in control but they make new laws just for the sake of making laws. and it's the citizenry that suffers for it.  i wish they would go back to understanding that our constitution was written expressly to limit the power of our government not give it control of our lives. 
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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2009, 05:39:11 PM »

the biggest problem that i see in our future is that we will soon have better than 50% of the population on some form of government assistance.  they will either depend on the government for housing, health care, SSI, or their very jobs.  this + 50% will pay little or no taxes.  since government produces nothing and earns nothing, the only way it pays for programs is to take from those who do produce.  that + 50% will vote to keep and expand their programs at the expense of the producers.  those who produce will not work harder to pay more taxes.  you end up with less and less production, and more and more takers....the welfare state.  it is neither socialism nor democracy.  it is simply stagnation and it all eventually colapses under an unsustainable welfare burdon.
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2009, 06:04:32 PM »

I WAS SHOCKED when I found out that UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS only reflect THOSE PEOPLE CURRENTLY ON THE  RECEIVING CHECKS - once you are no longer recieving unemployement checks, they no longer mark you as part of the UNEMPLOYED.

To me that means the numbers could reflect DOUBLE if a resession lasted 3 to 5 years, that is DOUBLE over what they are telling you. Where on Earth would you find the real numbers of unemployed (only those capable of course) because the numbers we see are kinda done like roll-over minute - but in reverse.

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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2009, 06:26:24 PM »

don't get to excited BM, those numbers are never accurate.  they usually reflect a HIGHER number, not a lower one.  you have to check who is putting out the numbers and what questions they ask.

as an example, when i was laid off from my job once, i was polled by unemployment officers as part of the usual report.  i had collected unemployment for a period of time, but had decided to go into another line of work (for myself smiley ).

they asked:  1. have you collected unemployment in the last year? - yes  2.  have you looked for work in the last year? - yes  3.  are you currently employed? - no.  i went on the rolls as one of the "unemployed". 

it sucks to lose a job, but it happens.  waiting around for someone to fix it is not a solution.  not taking a job because it doesn't pay enough, is not a solution.  living in a state where there is no work is stupid.  move.  i don't have a lot of sympathy for the unemployed who whine.  also, extending unemployment benefits extends unemployment.  there have been enough studies to support this.  guess what?  if people think they might go hungry, or not be able to pay the bills, they magically find work!!  there is  nothing wrong with working more than one job.  nothing wrong with getting rid of the cable, and selling the big screen. 

as high as unemployment was during the carter years, and as bad as the economy was, i do not remember such whining and panic.  we are not even close now to what those years were like!  we are a million miles away from the days of the depression.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2009, 08:02:58 PM »

the offcial stats do not reflect people who have exhausted their ration. Its sort of like saying inflation doesnt include energy and food.
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2009, 08:08:52 PM »

After much thought I have come to the following conclusion:Every new President spends his 1st 4 years in office trying to correct the mistakes of his predecessor(s) and making his own mistakes.  The next 4 years, if reelected, is spent compounding the mistakes he's already made and actually getting a few things right.

One thing, good or bad, that you can say about Bush is that he has never looked back or second guessed himself.  It must be nice to have a "do it and forget about it" mentality.

As for Obama, there has been so much hype about what people think he's promised that he's in a no-win situation.  Especially from the extreme left.  I'll support him, as President, just as I have all the others we've had during my llfe time but I still have reservations about many of his positions.

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