It's time. I'll sit back and cool down for a little while and maybe get my thoughts a little straighter, then I'll post my thread in the intro section and explain my views on why I came over here to the Beemaster site. I really thought I was getting away from some of this by coming over here from the other site.
It's time we all had a talk about how we treat new members. What's the deal?? Did I end up on the wrong site?
I'd like to see that NOT happen.
As with any other time, I'll admit that I very well could be a little off. I'll try and keep an open mind. I will however say this though:
Anytime we say things in such a way as to make a new member want to stop posting, we've done something wrong. I don't care if it was was lack of tact, too much pressure, or whatever. Maybe we can save it for established members. I took your jest toward me as just that - pure jest.
However, when I see us (as a forum) cause someone to not want to post anymore, I feel that we've misbehaved a bit.
Members here are surely NOT going to be ANY HARSHER on new comers than established members - friendly is friendly, Aholes are Aholes. I don't know what this jab is (especially in a post where it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC. We had a very pleasant PM once, pm me again if you have issues concerning new members or anyone.
Beemaster is NOT now nor EVER Will be Eutopia, and no one promised you this. It is not Woodsock, people don't lay around playing naked in the mud while Janis Joplin is on stage, if a new member gets tossed, it isn't a GROUP hand-raise decision. Sorry if you cannot agree with everything our small by interactive governing body works, it is what it is. A member who is choosing to leave us by breaking rules and choosing to fight RIGHT out of the gate. I been Administrating a long time, please don't pretend to know MY JOB.
The members here (whether you fully buy the concept or not) have great input concerning new members. It doesn't take long to see who people really are. We ask new members ESPECIALLY to be on good behaviour - maybe a few cabin fevered members can give them a little slack to in some posts, agreed.
I personally see a small influx of people from other forums who have agendas which I believe the members should be made aware - that's all. Not all new members are new beekeeps with great hopes and intentions, many are here on their 3 or 4 membername, they are forum DIRTY BOMBS, just trying to go off in our forum like a suiside bomber in a Iraqie MArket Place.We know threats exist and I enjoy you here greatly - I son't understand if I'm reading you incorrectly, but just remember one thing - number of post counts don't impress me. . No banned filter protection stops everybody everytime. Software is not that good. That's why when we know the member's name from another forum, we watch them a long time - if we suspect we will start seeing little DIGS in a forum we're not even posting in! Not following you here very we'll/
Please chill though on who and why someone is banned, this isn't another forum where we DEBATE the banning of a member over a 18 page post. Members here can show their own words which hung them, they do not need my help. I agree there may be a touch of drooling over a member who has MORE than asked for it DOES get a bit of Chewing on - it happened recently, but is NOT the norm.
But I know when someone is genuine about staying and becoming an outstanding member here or when someone is detoxing on other forum's more open attitude toward the Wild Wild West style. I don't allow that here, our moderators and members don't allow that here. When you see someone written off as an Ahole, it is not done covertly, we LEAVE the posts when ever possible so a new member, or return member with little patiences gets exposed quickly and they just make fools of themselves.
Not sure which member I banned that seems to disturb you, but I am sorry. When someone makes it a point to open the EXIT DOOR in the forum, it is MY JOB to see they are escorted to thru the door and it is locked behind them. I deleted a whole paragraph just now, better to just again ask, WTH 1of16 - write me in PM if you have an issue. You do know I hope that NOT everyone with an issue is ridiculed than banned, not always and rarely enjoyable.