Last night I picked up 20 new boxes! There is a small beekeeping supply place (Stedman's) that makes em in Silverdale WA. I need 8frm med so he had to make em special & he was nice enough to bring em to the Tacoma Dome last night for me to pick up, no shipping! They are well made so I will be back! The price was VERY GOOD! & price on reg 10frm are also for those of us here in PNW. OOhhh, now I get to use my air stapler...wheeeee!!