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Offline Jerrymac

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Stupid Affects
« on: January 15, 2009, 05:50:43 PM »
I'm sure you have all seen them on TV/movies. Some of them just drive me nuts. I think they should do some research into how things really work sometimes. Just this past week on a couple of different shows the character picks up something and knocks the door knob off the door and then kicks the door open. Knocking the knob off did nothing to help in kicking the door open, the latch was still where it always was, holding the door shut. But after knocking the knob off he/she could have unlatched it and entered without kicking it down.

Hot wiring cars. They reach up under the dash pull out a couple of wires and touch them together. Sometimes they touch them together a couple of times and you hear the starter turn over and then the car starts and they tie the two wires together.  :shock: This would cause the starter to keep turning until it burned out and has nothing to do with the car running. There would have to be a couple of other wires tied together to get the ignition system working before the starter could have started the car. And then one has to wonder how the locked steering and gear shifter got unlocked.

I sometimes wonder about the bombs they have to disarm. I know with dynamite and C-4 they put in a detonator or blasting cap. Now when I was a kid I was watching some blasting going on and I found one of those detonators. This one was a little metal rod looking thing with two wires sticking out. I know you place this into the dynamite or C-4 and then there has to be an electric power source to hook the wires to. You can either touch the wires right to the power source or put on a switch of some sort. I had that thing for a long time wondering if it was ever going to go off  :shock:

So here in this one show I was watching, there was this big pile of C-4. There were all sorts of wires and lights and gizmos and gadgets. Our heroes were trying to figure out which wire they could cut to disarm the thing.

I was wondering why they didn't pull the detonator out of the puddy looking stuff and move the C-4 away from them.

Hand cuffs. It is really easy to open hand cuffs with a paper clip or safety pin or sewing needle. I have done it. But that little chain between the cuffs is a high tensile steel. A soft lead bullet is not going to break it. 
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 05:54:18 PM »
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Hot wiring cars. They reach up under the dash pull out a couple of wires and touch them together. Sometimes they touch them together a couple of times and you hear the starter turn over and then the car starts and they tie the two wires together.   This would cause the starter to keep turning until it burned out and has nothing to do with the car running. There would have to be a couple of other wires tied together to get the ignition system working before the starter could have started the car. And then one has to wonder how the locked steering and gear shifter got unlocked

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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2009, 05:56:06 PM »
The show 24? Haven't watched that since the 2nd season.
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2009, 06:07:11 PM »
jack wired an ignition in just that way on the monday show.  they all do it that way.  there must be some logical explanation?
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2009, 06:19:19 PM »
And also, those wires are not just laying there. They are in bundles. They are in different configurations depending on the car. Some instances they are nowhere near where they show them on the screen. Some are connected to a switch box at the bottom of the steering column and go right out through the fire wall. A metal rod from the "Ignition switch" (where you put your key) moves a bunch of connectors in the switch box. The steering locking devise is beneath the steering wheel. You either have to take off the steering wheel and remove the locking plate, or somehow turn the key lock without a key.

It is more believable when they knock out the key thing and turn it with a screw driver.   
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2009, 06:51:33 PM »
Well I thought all the effects in the old Godzilla movies was very believable. :-D
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2009, 06:57:47 PM »
I love how they NEVER turn on the lights at a TV Crime Scene - even long after the bodies are gone, you still see flashlights, the finger prints were taken from the light switch an hour ago, and we're still in a dark room.

I wonder sometimes are the battery companies spoconsoring the TV Crime Dramas - lol.
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2009, 07:00:14 PM »
not to mention that the wires have nothing to do with unlocking the wheel so you can steer the car and most of em the switch is inside the steering colum cover and if you know which wires in the bundle to go for it.s just as easy to cut the hard lever and just push the switch.  but you still gotta get the lock turned to release the wheel,  i havent seen a car that had a through the dashboard key switch since the early 70's  i used to hotwire my mom's 71 ford pickup now and then
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2009, 07:25:15 PM »
Some of the older Fords and Mercurys with key cylinders in the steering column could be yanked out with a dent puller/slide hammer.  Then a pair of needle nose pliers could be used to start the car...but yes indeed the hot wiring example used by TV makes me laugh.  Perhaps the most comedy stems from the BS detector going off in your head.   :lau: 

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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2009, 07:30:02 PM »
I love how they NEVER turn on the lights at a TV Crime Scene -

Here is what I think. The flash light beam focuses your attention. I even did it once after looking for awhile for a small screw on the floor. (Eyeglass screw) I would move the light slowly around and sure enough there was the screw. Right where I had been glancing over the whole time.
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2009, 01:51:49 PM »
and then there's macgyver :lau:
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2009, 11:48:05 PM »
Jerry, good thing you never thought it would be fun to hook the little wires on your blasting cap up to a battery. They contain RDX and can definitely take your hand off. 

One of my favorite TV affects is the guy riding on a motorcycle shooting a hand gun with pinpoint accuracy. It just does not happen.  Or when a car crashes and an explosion occurs which blows up half the city.
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2009, 12:22:11 AM »
Jerry, good thing you never thought it would be fun to hook the little wires on your blasting cap up to a battery. They contain RDX and can definitely take your hand off. 

One of my favorite TV affects is the guy riding on a motorcycle shooting a hand gun with pinpoint accuracy. It just does not happen.  Or when a car crashes and an explosion occurs which blows up half the city.

Well you know what they say in Journalism:  "If it bleeds, it leads!"   

Movie makerss know that blood, gore, and mayhem is entertainment at it's best and the more BOOM the more MONEY they make.  ie 007
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Re: Stupid Affects
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2009, 07:47:11 PM »
Jerry, good thing you never thought it would be fun to hook the little wires on your blasting cap up to a battery. They contain RDX and can definitely take your hand off.

What kind of idiot do you think I am?


There is this other thing that drives me bonkers. Someone gets shot, cut, stabbed. They go to the Doctor and get sewed and bandaged up. And there is blood soaked through the new looking bandage.  :?
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