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« on: January 05, 2009, 03:33:40 PM »

I was just thinking of some of the things that we chat about in Ventrilo Voice Chat every night. One thing came to mind that always make me laugh and that is the question of this post: What CAN'T you do in YOUR STATE that others can do in theres?

For example: I'm from New Jersey, one of two states that WON'T let you pump your own gasoline, Oragon is the other. Most all other states you either HAVE TO pump your own or generally are surcharge by the galone to have someone pump it for you. There is only ONE exception to this rule on gasoline, that is MOTORCYCLES: the rider ALWAYS pours his own fuel for both safety and cosmetic reasons. You don't want to pour fuel on a hot engine, nor do you want to possibly ruin artwork that is painted on the tanks of the bikes.

Also in New Jersey, you cannot SUPERSIZE any meal packages at any fast food joints. So getting that supersized MacDonalds Fries is NOT allowed, but you CAN buy 3 LARGE FRIES to go with your burger - lol.

Smoking is not allowed in any public building EXCEPT for Casinos in Atlantic City - this A.C. rule is always being fought by both sides but currently you can once again smoke in casinos.

You cannot use your cellphone if it is TETHERED to you in any manner. You are not allowed a wired earpiece, because the wire could cause a tangle while driving. You must be fully wireless, via bluetooth or other device: my wifes GPS is her phone while driving, the Bluetooth picks up her phone signal as she approaches the car and by time she is in the car, her phone number list, important numbers, 911 and home are easily accessable with a touch of the screen. Of course that neat Garmin GPS also plays MP3s and audiobooks, can redirect her around traffic jams and lots of other neat stuff.

Although it is NOT a law, it is VERY HARD to make a left turn at intersections in this state: we have JUG-HANDLES, basically you make a series of RIGHT TURNS until you are on the opposite intersecting street and then you go straight - the joke is that in New Jersey you need to make three rights to make a left, but in truth, is isn't all that far off from being so. Most Jug-handles are indeed that a sweeping circle usually with a massive draining ditch in the center all fenced in, but sometimes, it follows one or more square blocks where you turn right at a stop sign, right again and then again at the next two stops, until finally you go straight.

If I can think of any more, I'll post additionally, but those are the ones that stand out as I write this.

So.... What is unusual about where you live, and if you know what the reasoning behind the weird law please share it.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2009, 03:47:23 PM »

I will have to think about this for a bit. Not sure there is something one can't do here but you can in other states. How many states still allow a person to ride unrestrained in the back of pickups?

But license tags on the vehicles. In Texas you need both front and rear tags. New Mexico only has the rear tag. A Texan can be mixed in with a whole herd of New Mexicans, and we have a lot of them around here, and the Texan is missing the front tag... The Texan could be pulled over and ticketed for that while none of the others would be bothered.

Also the tag goes with the vehicle when it is sold. Except probably vanity tags with a special request.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2009, 03:53:43 PM »

We too need both plates on our cars, and plates are not transferable EXCEPT to the child of a driver who has passed away. I was able to keep my Dad's plates when he died, and I actually kept them for TWO CARS both of which suffered headon accidents.

There wasn't much left of the front plate after that last accident in August, plus at that point I really felt they were jinxed, so I gladly turned them in and took the new ones from the dealer.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2009, 04:30:44 PM »

Here in the great Empire State:

Women may go topless in public, providing it is not being used as a business.
You may not smoke within 100 feet of the entrance to a public building.
It is illegal for a woman to be on the street wearing “body hugging clothing.
Citizens may not greet each other by “putting one’s thumb to the nose and wiggling the fingers”.
A fine of $25 can be levied for flirting.
It is against the law to throw a ball at someone’s head for fun.
The penalty for jumping off a building is death.
New Yorkers cannot dissolve a marriage for irreconcilable differences, unless they both agree to it.
A person may not walk around on Sundays with an ice cream cone in his/her pocket.
While riding in an elevator, one must talk to no one, and fold his hands while looking toward the door.
Slippers are not to be worn after 10:00 P.


But then again, here are things I can do that you can't in the Garden State.  Nah nah nah nah! tongue

Drivers must warn those who they pass on highways before they do so.
Spray paint may not be sold without a posted sign warning juveliles of the penalty for creating graffiti.
Handcuffs may not be sold to minors.
It is illegal to wear a bullet-proof vest while committing a murder.
One must yield a phone line to a person if it is an emergency.
All motorists must honk before passing another car, bicyclist, skater, and even a skateboarder.
You cannot pump your own gas.
It is against the law for a man to knit during the fishing season.
It is against the law to “frown” at a police officer.
In an attempt to “foster kindness” in the citizens of New Jersey, the month of May is designated “Kindness Awareness Month”.
If you have been convicted of driving while intoxicated, you may never again apply for personalized license plates.
The third Thursday of October is designated as “New Jersey Credit Union Day” and citizens of the state should observe the day with “appropriate activities and programs”.


You can check out the dumb laws for other states here -> http://www.dumblaws.com/law/686
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009, 04:38:12 PM »

Down here we can ride in the back of pickups as long as you are above 12 years old. I guess after 12 your head is hard enough to survive the impact rolleyes
We are only required to have one license plate on a vehicle preferably in the back someplace

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009, 06:37:01 PM »

Hee hee guess in Seattle you can't carry a concealed wepon over 6ft in length, well there goes my plans for the week! evil  Those city folk..geeezzzzz! We need 2 plates just 1 tab. (gotta keep the guys in jail busy!!)  J
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009, 06:55:38 PM »

In Nebraska, as in most Western states (and not most Eastern states), you can carry a gun in plain sight with no permit.  Just as long as you aren't in Omaha.  There you have to have a permit to carry a "concealable" weapon.  Not a "concealed" weapon, but a "concealable" weapon, which you must then carry in plain sight.  Smiley

Apparently it doesn't work that way some places.

On a typical construction site in Western Nebraska you'll see a gun rack in every pickup with one spot filled with a four foot level and the other two with a shotgun and a deer rifle.  The .22 is usually in a case behind the seat (since it wouldn't fit in the rack) and the .357 is on the dash when driving (so it won't be concealed) and under the seat the rest of the time (so it won't get stolen).  Typically guns outnumber carpenters four to one.

I remember doing a construction job in Illinois where they were going around the circle at lunch talking about the last time they got mugged and how they knew this one guy who actually owned a gun...

It was so absurd I laughed.  I'd never met anyone who had been mugged before and seldom met anyone who didn't own a gun.  They said "you probably drive around with a gun rack full of guns all the time" and I said, "I sure do".  They were sure I was kidding.

When I lived in Laramie the sign on the door at the bank said "Remove ski masks and check guns with the security guard."  While not everyone walked around with a gun on their hip, enough did that it was not an unusual sight by any means.
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2009, 08:39:42 PM »

I will have to think about this for a bit. Not sure there is something one can't do here but you can in other states. How many states still allow a person to ride unrestrained in the back of pickups?

You can in Washington as long as the person is seated and the truck has side boards, its a farm thing.

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But license tags on the vehicles. In Texas you need both front and rear tags. New Mexico only has the rear tag. A Texan can be mixed in with a whole herd of New Mexicans, and we have a lot of them around here, and the Texan is missing the front tag... The Texan could be pulled over and ticketed for that while none of the others would be bothered.

In this case Federal law dictates the enforcement answer.  In Washington we only use the back tab (to save expenses) and under resiprosicty between states another state can't ticket any vehicle that is leagally licensed according to the state of origin.  Texas probably gets a lot of money from public ignorance because most people don't know enough to fight the ticket.  A letter to the court should take care of the problem.

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Also the tag goes with the vehicle when it is sold. Except probably vanity tags with a special request.

Same in Washington.

Here's another making money from public ignorance.  My daughter got a ticket for having a headlight out on her car while it was parked in Business parking lot--not on a public street.  In the State of Washington, with the exception of Reckless driving and vehicluar homicide, the jurisdiction of traffic laws is limited to the streets and highways.  So if a vehicle is ticketed for an offense, other than noted and under hot pursuit provisions, on private property the case is summarily dismissed if brought to the courts attention.
However, in the case of hot pursuit, I've personally written a ticket on a persons own kitchen table and had it upheld in court.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2009, 11:15:23 PM »

Swear in front of women and children.  Not that it has teeth anymore, unfortunately.  I'd rather have the police take care of it rather than me having to punch the #@$#@ who swears in front of my wife and kids... grin
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2009, 11:29:14 PM »

Scads:

I totally agree, I've never been afraid of getting my butt kicked by someone bigger than me, so jumping in an stopping a man from cussing out a woman or kids ESPECIALLY if it were my family would have ended with me or him getting hurt unless I was able to talk sense into the baffoon.

But now being older and a bit more breakable, I would gladly use my cellphone and later sign a statement. I was a hot tempered youth (meaning into my 30s) especially when some fool did something stupid behind the wheel of their car that could have endangered me and my occupants or just plain pulled in front of me and do 25 miles an hour under the speed limit WHEN there were no cars behind me.

Many a time I'd get out and bang on their windows at a traffic light, asking what on Earth they were thinking or doing - today, you'd get shot doing such things (which is scarey knowing NJ is not known for being a gun toting state.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2009, 03:03:25 AM »

The only ones that come to mind involve the purchase of xxx items and the purchase of fireworks. Cant do either here, or the other states. The territories, i.e places that arent states yet, (god only knows why), the Northern Territory and the nations capital, Canberra, where all the politicians are.

Of course we have Federal Laws that cover everyone, then State Law regarding crime, noise, fishing, speeds etc that vary everywhere. Then theres local laws. They are the ones that we dont need. Like what colour you can paint your fence, dog licenses, parking etc.

The States were all different once. Laws based on the people that lived there. Since the  second world war and in spurts during the 80s and 90s specially, there was a real push to ratify a lot of individual state laws. The trend is to get all the states to agree to something, then have it made federal law by stealth down the track.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2009, 04:48:11 AM »

Keith13, if I remember correctly I believe a person above a certain age can ride it the back of a pickup but it then can not go faster than 35.

Brian, I wasn't meaning they would ticket a person from NM just those from Texas for not having front plates. It just seems to make it stupid that we have to have the tags if other states don't have to have it in this state.  rolleyes

I knew about that private property thing. I just have to wonder about all these stop signs that are put up in parking lots of businesses. I'm always "rolling stop" through them. I do come to a complete stop on public roads.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2009, 07:17:37 AM »

Mick:

No fireworks here either, we have to drive to South Carolina (about 13 hour drive) I think to buy them (not sure of the Pennsylvania laws - but no one goes there for them) so I guess it's the guys vacationing in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina who pick them up and smuggle them across 5 state lines.

About the pickup, my brother was very hangicapped and strapped in his wheelchair - the only thing holding him down was my friend George and I. It had a cap over the bed, but of course TIMES WERE SIMPLER THEN, or people were stupider or physics laws didn't apply - but we somehow survived.

I can think of so many times that my dad slammed on the brakes (which wasn't to bad, his wheelchair was backed up against the drivers cab) but when he'd take off, it took all of what we had to stop that chair from rolling toward the rear window. Finally in my teens, only months before we got rid of the truck, I talked my dad into making a hold-down strap to go between the wheels and bed, it worked great.

I think life was simpler, people a generation older than me tell me how great (as an adult) the 50s and 60s was. Everyone would be driving around with an open beer between their legs, doing ten miles per hour enjoying the Fall colors, no cell phones so your hands were either on your wheel or on your girl.

I was a kid in the sixties, all I remember was TV going color in 1966 ( I was 8 then) and not much moreexcept minor memories of Lee Harvey Aswald being shot and even a brief memory of Kennedy's Body being lowered from Air Force One - being 5 then, I'm impressed to have any memory of such events.

Historically the 60s has not been painted very well, sex, drugs, rock and roll is the kindest thing said - near global desstruction with the Bay of Pigs, Viet Nam War, race hatred, riots, murdered Kennedys, MLK assisinated, church burnings - my lord and these people would live through it all again, "nothing" they say beat the 60s - wow! But we got to the moon, not because it was easy, but because it was hard - a quote that still lives today although if it were nearly as sucessful today, I think we'd have lynching laws in public and a trail of rotting bodies from Enron Executives to major collapsed Banks would line Wall Street, their bones picked clean by pigeons by now.

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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2009, 08:03:53 AM »



Same in Washington.

Here's another making money from public ignorance.  My daughter got a ticket for having a headlight out on her car while it was parked in Business parking lot--not on a public street.  In the State of Washington, with the exception of Reckless driving and vehicluar homicide, the jurisdiction of traffic laws is limited to the streets and highways.  So if a vehicle is ticketed for an offense, other than noted and under hot pursuit provisions, on private property the case is summarily dismissed if brought to the courts attention.
However, in the case of hot pursuit, I've personally written a ticket on a persons own kitchen table and had it upheld in court.
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I always wondered about this. I knew you can not get a ticket in a private parking lot, but what I always wondered was what about parking tickets?  Can you fight them ?

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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2009, 09:10:26 AM »

Oh yeah, fireworks  rolleyes
Although they are rethinking that one a bit because everybody drives south an hour or so to pick up $100's of fireworks at a pop and they are missing out on lots of tax revenue.  The 4th of July still sounds like the Gaza strip, even though fireworks are illegal.
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Following passage of the 26th Amendment, most states adjusted child-support laws accordingly, recognizing the "legal age of majority" as 18.  Not Indiana.

Of all the states I've lived in, I had the misfortune to get divorced in Indiana, one of only seven states (CT, HI, IN, MA, MI, NY, MO) which require child support to be paid until age 21. While Indiana recognizes that at age 18 kids are "adults" with the legal right to completely disassociate from me, I am required to continue supporting a "child" who has repudiated any relationship with me. I've got a couple kids from my first marriage that I haven't seen or heard from in years, since my ex and husband #5 took them to Calif. Worst of all, the money doesn't even go to my kids, it's paid to my ex.
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2009, 11:42:45 PM »



Same in Washington.

Here's another making money from public ignorance.  My daughter got a ticket for having a headlight out on her car while it was parked in Business parking lot--not on a public street.  In the State of Washington, with the exception of Reckless driving and vehicluar homicide, the jurisdiction of traffic laws is limited to the streets and highways.  So if a vehicle is ticketed for an offense, other than noted and under hot pursuit provisions, on private property the case is summarily dismissed if brought to the courts attention.
However, in the case of hot pursuit, I've personally written a ticket on a persons own kitchen table and had it upheld in court.

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I always wondered about this. I knew you can not get a ticket in a private parking lot, but what I always wondered was what about parking tickets?  Can you fight them ?

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If the parking is done on a public street, the ticket is valid unless you can prove you weren't there when it was issued.  Not hard to do.  The City of Seattle has issued a parking ticket to one of my vehicles several times over the years.  I just return the ticket along with the explanation that the vehicle discribed on the citation does not fit the vehicle the license number is registered to and that takes care of the whole thing.
Tickets recieved in the mail can always be contested on the basis of misinformation, wrong driver, wrong vehicle, etc.  Even those speeding tickets issued by cameras at stop signs can be contested on the basis of wrong driver.
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2009, 11:52:18 PM »

We can't pay as much property tax as you do. We are frozen in time and thank god for that.
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2009, 11:56:48 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2009, 08:10:28 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2009, 11:14:44 PM »

In Wisconsin it's illegal to drink beer out of a bucket on street corners. 

How many drunks can drink from a bucket at one time before one drowns?
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2009, 09:40:10 AM »

In Wisconsin it's illegal to drink beer out of a bucket on street corners. 

This law dates back to the days when people would send a kid down to the tavern to get a bucket of beer and they would have a few sips on the way home
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2009, 09:55:19 PM »

Well,People in other states can ice fish. I'd drown trying to do that here.  tongue
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2009, 06:00:46 AM »

In NC, if you build a dune buggy or other car, in order to get it licensed for the street, you have to have windshield wipers on it.

You do NOT have to have a windshield.
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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2009, 08:28:47 AM »

 In NY you can pump your own gas, but you have to hold the handle(inhaling fumes) at all times unless you stick the gas cap in the handle. All portable gas cans have an anti-overfill device on them. We have a lot of these "safety" laws because one idiot did something stupid and now everyone in the state is treated like they are a child.
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In NC, if you build a dune buggy or other car, in order to get it licensed for the street, you have to have windshield wipers on it.

You do NOT have to have a windshield.

Same in Texas
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Well, I just found out that I can't mount my new GPS on the windshield. California doesn't allow that.  So I had to purchase a device to keep it on the dashboard. And it has to be on either side of the dashboard, not in the center. So silly!!

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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2009, 12:40:09 PM »

Can't be obstructing that view. I think it is illegal to have things hanging from the rear view mirror but people do it.
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