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« on: November 11, 2008, 11:19:16 AM »

i promise not to write about every one of these bits, but this was to good to pass up.

Oregon spent a lot of money on mass transit.  most of it was spent in the Portland area.  when gas prices started going up, people actually started using the mass transit (MAX).

  oregon, and portland in particular, are very green.  they were among the first to run city vehicles on NG.  they also run the buses on bio diesel...unless it's cold.  they didn't know the stuff would sludge up
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now they are looking at road repair budgets.  guess what???  because people are using the mass transit, there is less money coming in gas tax for road repair.  the solution?? raise the gas tax.  that's brilliant.  they are pushing all kinds of alternative fuels.  they might want to think about how they will get money for road repair if they get their wish and no one uses gas?  how about this?  don't repair the roads.  then people won't drive on them and they won't need repairs......

it makes about as much sense as the city back east which, after asking people not to use water in a drought, then raised the tax on water use because people didn't use as much water and revenue was down.!!
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 01:50:33 PM »

Hmm...that sounds a lot like basing critical school budgets on cigarette taxes.

You have to be a politician to understand. rolleyes

If they were so green they should just let the roads crumble.  Who'd want to drive on them?
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 03:00:50 PM »

I keep telling people that if they really want to get the public to use mass transit they should rip up the HUV lanes and lay track.  After driving 10 miles in bumper to bumper track and watch 6 empty transit trains zip past (they would run every 15 minutes) that it wouldn't be long before the trains were full and you could then drive that 10 miles and only have 4 full trains zip past.

You ever notice that with every highway improvement project such as adding more lanes or increasing an intersections capacity, that by the time the project is finished it is already overcrowded?
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 03:54:01 PM »

I keep telling people that if they really want to get the public to use mass transit they should rip up the HUV lanes and lay track.  After driving 10 miles in bumper to bumper track and watch 6 empty transit trains zip past (they would run every 15 minutes) that it wouldn't be long before the trains were full and you could then drive that 10 miles and only have 4 full trains zip past.

You ever notice that with every highway improvement project such as adding more lanes or increasing an intersections capacity, that by the time the project is finished it is already overcrowded?

I think it was Stanford did a study on that and found you are absolutly correct bigger wider roads attract more traffic. Strange but true

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