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« on: November 04, 2008, 11:46:34 PM »

There has certainly been a change of thought in your Country over the last 10 years or so.

Congratulations to you all, I wish all of you well on this new journey!
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 12:26:09 AM »

Yep. This is gonna be fun
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 12:49:28 AM »

fun....not the word that comes immediately to mind  smiley.  thanks mick.  it will be interesting at least!
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 12:56:12 AM »

How kind of you Mick!

I am very excited, and am looking forward to working with the Democratic Party and Republicans as well in 2009...I am thrilled, and humbled at the overwhelming win for Barack Obama.  I was humbled by John McCain's concession speech.

Looking very forward to 2009  Smiley grin Smiley grin Smiley

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 01:43:08 AM »

At least it isn't Hillary! evil rolleyes..I can hope for the best!  J
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 02:10:17 AM »

I see this as a tremendous milestone for you all. Certainly the most important change in US thinking since the abolition of segregation.

To think that the intangible barrier of colour has been crossed in such a huge way, is an amazing thing.

None of us knows what the future holds, but I hope you and your children will be able to look back on this day in 20 years time and be proud to have been a part of this change.

It is more than a political victory, its the chance of a new beginning to the 21st century for all of you.

Like it or not, the world turns on the machinations of the US political system and economy so all of us will be affected by this result.

I would like to mention John McCain. This bloke has dedicated his life to his country in ways none of us could ever match. You should be extremely proud of this man, indeed both men, no matter your political persuasions.

Ill be having a wee drink for all of you tonight!

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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 02:45:39 AM »

Unfortunately, I think America has seen its best days.  At least for a while.  The rising tide of socialism will be the death of freedom in this wonderful country.

One thing that is positive is that for the 44th time, we have a peaceful transition of government.  Simply amazing.  The founding fathers had it right...
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 05:43:46 AM »

The outcome was not as I had hoped, but the majority of the people have spoken and I will try to accept their decision.

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 06:50:36 AM »

Unfortunately, I think America has seen its best days.  At least for a while.  The rising tide of socialism will be the death of freedom in this wonderful country.
Yep, I do believe George W.'s legacy will be that he's the American president who handed the country over into socialism.  rolleyes

The founding father's are rolling in their graves over what is happening to the US.  We now have a president who chafes at the 'constraints' of the Constitution.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 07:09:42 AM »

Thanks Mick,Let America always be the beacon on the Hill!!


No matter what your political views,we will have the opportunity again in 4 years. We will have another huge opportunity between now and then with congressional elections to reflect the outcomes in less populous areas of the country.Remember all spending bills come from the House of Representatives and this is where the voters really have the greatest influence on how our country is run.And be sure to keep your eyes on the ball when it comes time for confirmation of Supreme Court justices.Let your Congressman know your thoughts on any of these appointments and be sure that the Constitution does not become circumvented by activist Judges willing to strip away your rights with their idea of what they wish was in the Constitution.
 The Constitution is not a large document by any means,so I urge all to read what it actually says and think a minute about how far our nation has deviated from the rock solid foundation it was built on.
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
 Sadly the Constitution is a forgotten document with very little time spent on it in our education system.My son has been having more time spent on other nations history than that of our own nation.This is something that needs to change. Be suspicious of any school curriculum that does not teach American History any further back than the sixties!!
  Hats off America and let Freedom ring!!!
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 07:37:44 AM »

Very well said Ken.    For those interested, a free pocket Constitution (which also has the Declaration of Independence) is available from The Heritage Foundation (lower right corner)

http://wwrdheritage.org/
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 07:38:45 AM »

Say what you will about Obama, he's our next president, he's smart, ambitious, confident, and full of energy and purpose. His acceptance speech was truly amazing, with emphasis on "we" the way it should be. "We" all need to stand behind him, our next president, goodbye George W!! George was a good ole boy, someone you would love to party and hang out with, but I am glad we have and can finally move on.

McCain's concession speech was simply first class. I have always liked McCain, and you have to agree the man bleeds red, white and blue, but truth be told, he may just have lost the presidency because of his running mate selection, Sarah Palin, we can be thankful she is behind us as well, the woman plain, downright scared me.

I am hopeful today and I accept Barack Obama as my new president, may God bless us all!


Thanks Mick!


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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 08:53:05 AM »

mick, i really wasn't about race for the majority of us.  it was about a shift away from what this country has traditionally stood for and  believed..  we will have to wait and see how it works out.  i am less concerned about obama as a president.  more concerned that he will appoint judges that will make law and that law will be damaging long term.

anyway, i'm glad it's over.  i was pretty sick of commercials!
i'm also glad that most of my family is out of the military now.  one retires in December.  that leaves 3 active and reserve. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 09:36:56 AM »

Kathy that is what I was worried about the most Sad truly sad day for all of us.

i am less concerned about obama as a president.  more concerned that he will appoint judges that will make law and that law will be damaging long term.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 09:47:48 AM »

Be glad the dems did not get 60 in the senate. Can you imagine Reid, Pelosi and Obama, all figuring out what to do first...  shocked
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2008, 11:33:17 AM »

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yes he is and yes we do, up to a point.  i hope there is more to him than a good speech.  talk won't govern.  long ago i stopped listening to him and reading what he had said.  the words come across a bit different when you don't have the sound of his voice.  i also predicted his win after a speech he gave.  even i was mesmerized smiley

he is now the commander in chief of the most important part of my family.  a lot of good people quietly left the military under clinton (me smiley).  a lot came back under bush.  we'll have to see what happens, but i know we are wondering about serving under him.

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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2008, 03:00:26 AM »

I hear Colin Powell is in line for a job. Ive studied this man, read his bio and cross referenced a lot of what has been recorded. He is an incredibly astute military man with a social conscience. I really do hope that he could be your Secretary of Defense or similar.

That would be the best possible outcome for those in service.
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2008, 07:02:19 AM »

My only fault in this whole election is that AFTER 8 years of George W. Bush - these are the best candidates BOTH PARTIES could come up with.

I think Obama is a biggot, a man who wins the Whitehouse STILL has the nurve to say we still haven't earned equality and may never (alwys speaking about blacks as second hand citizens, supressed by Whity) sadly, we don't need a racist in the Whitehouse and I believe he is one.

It doesn't mean he will or won't be a GREAT PRESIDENT, for our country, I hope and pray so. But he was a token candidate tossed at the 2004 keynote to feel the waters and see if HE was the Black man that could go against a woman, and obviously so.

Strangely, I have heard from many coworkers that they wished Hillary was still on the ballot, they would have voted for her!

Mccain made the same mistake Repubs make every election year, they don't have but one or two rally speaches written, and being seen in 3 states in a single day using the same material is bound to kill your campaign. Obama kept it fresh, even if hey just rearranged the content.

Here it was 2pm yesterday (election day) McCain was still talking about TODD PALIN and his freaking snow machine and 200+ miles he finished with a broken  arm, and how he was READY for Washington, and so was Sarah. What a freakin Joke, we aren't voting for Todd, but in the McCain rallys he talked more negative stuff about Obama and Biden then he did postive stuff about himself. When ever you have a rally, never provoke BOOOOOOOs from the audience, always talk positive about YOU and not negative about the other team.

He pulled a GWB and even worse a GHWB who couldn't stand be heckled, and literally snarled at the crowd when Clinton hecklers teased Sr. from the audience and in the end, Sr. looked like an old bitter snarling man in his reelection bid - McCain wasn't doing much better.

Well... I'm hoping for a great 4 years of economic reconstruction and not going to the poor house with democratic raises in taxes. Conservatives are still sick about this, but we'll get over this, some of us even got to like Clinton during his 8 years. I hope we can say the same about Obama in 8 years.

What sickened me though was the poll coverage showing mostly all black in lines around the polling building. And small numbers of whites waiting in small lines to vote. The media should always be ashamed of themselves.

I wish Obama well, the magical thing about the USA is we stand behind the president who matter who wins. That is a wonderful thing that really make us special.

Now.... may he live up to his promises and may they all work as well as he claims. I just want what is good for the country, having an executive and legislative branch working together is always a great start, at least the numbers allow that to happen.

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2008, 07:34:46 AM »

I think there will be two distinct groups of people coming out of this in the future.

1)This group are those that have always woke every morning, doing the best they can, pick themselves up, bend with the changing times, know how to provide for their families, etc. This group will no doubt see changes, some good and some bad. Nothing in politics happens overnight, and much of what obama has promised will not come true. Their lives will not be ruined if all the promises are not filled.

2)This group, has pinned their happiness, their hopes and dreams, and their ability to do anything in life, to who puts their butt in a seat in the white house. This includes the women who last week upon leaving a obama rally stated along the lines "I can not believe this is happening, and never thought it would happen in my lifetime. I'll never have to worry about filling my gas tank again, I'll never have to worry about putting food on the table. Obama said if we stand by him, he'll stand by us!"

Want to take a guess who will be devastated more? In my opinion, it is certainly the group who has pinned their whole existence and happiness on the ability of the government to hand it too them, by taking it away from others.

My family will endure 4 or 8 years of obama. We will see the pendulum swing many times back and forth over our lifetimes, between parties that make a thousand promises. We will bend, change slowly as governments do, will wake the next day after obama takes office and will be changed little as we will no doubt still be providing for each other the best way we can.

My father-in-law who was from Denmark (socialist country), often said that people crave what the left offers them. But as taxes go up and they never are fully given what is promised, they then will swing back to a conservative vote. Problem is...taxes that previously went up on all the promises never go down. So they see the conservatives as nothing better than the left who raised the taxes, and eventually are swayed back by more promises from the left as the conservatives just don't make as many good looking promises. And so the cycle repeats itself, with only really one group being fooled...the people themselves.

The people here in this country will continue down this same road. Some things will be good and some bad. But the people who are dependant on happiness, handouts, and look to the government for everything they promised, will be the biggest losers and fools in the long run.

And so it begins.......
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2008, 08:25:30 AM »

Yeah. I just wonder how long it will take before we hear the name change from Obama to Uncle Tom  shocked
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