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« on: September 19, 2008, 08:27:47 AM »

I've read in a couple different posts of using 5:3 syrup.  I'm no mathematician embarassed, give me measurments.   What's its purpose?
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2008, 10:52:29 AM »

generally you feed 2:1 syrup in the fall and 5:3 is pretty close to 2:1 except not quite so thick and easier to mix up. so that would be 5 lbs of sugar to 3 pints of water.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2008, 12:16:14 PM »

Randy  ? 5# suger to 3( PINTS)water that sounds a little thick?Huh?
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2008, 01:46:17 PM »

i mixed up some 2:1 a few days ago and used 25 lbs of sugar and 1 1/2 gallons of water plus about another cup of water. it was pretty thick like it was supposed to be.
as I have learned from others on this board...a pint's a pound the world around. 8 pints=1 gallon. you have to heat up the water to get the sugar to dissolve.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 02:57:13 PM »

Thanks Randy, guess i'm feeding way too lite ,10# sugar-2 gal.water. It tasted sweet to me but, I ain't no bee. I just put it out Wednesday. I'll check to see what they are doing with it next week. jimmy
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2008, 04:21:35 PM »

Here we go with my math,
1:1  according to beekeeping for dummies is 5 lbs. sugar:2 1/2 qts (10 pints) water. 
2:1  then should be 10 lbs:10 pints. 
2:1  5 lbs:5 pints
2:1  25 lbs:25 pints.  25 pints = 3.1259 gallons.  (conversion chart)  .1259 gallon = 1 pint.  25 pints = 3 gallons + 1 pint.
According to the conversion chart 8 pints does equal 1 gallon.
Is my math wrong?  Undecided

Is 5:3  5 lbs:3 pints? huh
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 04:28:35 PM »

I know on Michael Bush's web page he says:  1:1 is 10# Sugar and 10 pints water, 2:1 is 10# sugar and 5 pints water.  I hope I have this right because this is what I have been doing now.

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 04:57:32 PM »

I paid $13.48 for 26 # granulated sugar at Winn Dixie on Tuesday of this week. Anyone know where to get a better deal worth the drive? Thanks.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2008, 05:24:45 PM »

Here we go with my math,
1:1  according to beekeeping for dummies is 5 lbs. sugar:2 1/2 qts (10 pints) water. 
2:1  then should be 10 lbs:10 pints. 
2:1  5 lbs:5 pints
2:1  25 lbs:25 pints.  25 pints = 3.1259 gallons.  (conversion chart)  .1259 gallon = 1 pint.  25 pints = 3 gallons + 1 pint.
According to the conversion chart 8 pints does equal 1 gallon.
Is my math wrong?  Undecided

Is 5:3  5 lbs:3 pints? huh

but 2 1/2 quarts of water is 5 pints not 10. 2 pints to a quart. 4 quarts to a gallon.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2008, 05:37:06 PM »

Oops grin  Told you math wasn't my strong suit.  Was trying to get back here hopefully before anyone else and correct the 2 1/2 qts to equal 5 pints.  Good thing I mixed my syrup using qts not pints. cheesy

So, does everybody agree that 5:3 is  5 lbs:3 pints?  We know we don't want me doing the calculations. fishhit
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2008, 05:55:07 PM »

I paid $13.48 for 26 # granulated sugar at Winn Dixie on Tuesday of this week. Anyone know where to get a better deal worth the drive? Thanks.
$11.56 for 25 lbs at walmart. (46.24 cents per pound). Winn Dixie is 51.85 cents a pound. Not much difference.
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2008, 06:35:19 PM »

Everyone bee very careful.....you must use cane or beet sugar and not ordinary granulated sugar as they will have a digestion problem.

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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2008, 07:16:18 PM »

Everyone bee very careful.....you must use cane or beet sugar and not ordinary granulated sugar as they will have a digestion problem.

John

From what I've been told you don't want cane sugar because it will tear up their gut. I buy the syrup from dadant and right now it is a sucrose and hfcs mix. 70 gallons is like $230.00 and that only gives the girls about 1 jar each even when I add a little water to the mix. Nothing beats a honey flow even when it is a minor one.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2008, 08:02:44 PM »

granulated sugar is beet or cane sugar, and is sucrose (ie table sugar C12-H22-O11)


and I'm still looking for info on 5:3.

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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2008, 09:38:25 PM »

A pint of water weighs roughly 1 pound.  1:1 is one pound sugar to one pound (pint) water.  5:3 is 5 pounds sugar to 3 pounds (pints) water, so yea, you're right.
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2008, 11:37:58 PM »

It doesn't matter. The measurements are so close most folks, to make it easier just use container size.

5:3 Ratio
Ex. 5 cups sugar to 3 cups water
   
Or 5 pints sugar to 3 pints water

Just forget the conversions --- the bees don't really care grin!

>you must use cane or beet sugar and not ordinary granulated sugar as they will have a digestion problem.

Granulated sugar right out the store is what most that feed small amounts use. Seems the controversy is now over HFCS. 
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2008, 12:06:13 AM »

Does a cup of granulated sugar really weigh a whole pound?  Seems like the 5lb bags of sugar contain a lot more than just 5 cups of sugar to me.

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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2008, 05:07:43 AM »

I paid $13.48 for 26 # granulated sugar at Winn Dixie on Tuesday of this week. Anyone know where to get a better deal worth the drive? Thanks.

 a hundred pounds at Sams on 9/08 was $46.32
 a hundred pounds at Sams on 9/16 was $48.92
  like everything, it's going up weekly
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2008, 06:06:48 AM »

I paid $13.48 for 26 # granulated sugar at Winn Dixie on Tuesday of this week. Anyone know where to get a better deal worth the drive? Thanks.

 a hundred pounds at Sams on 9/08 was $46.32
 a hundred pounds at Sams on 9/16 was $48.92
  like everything, it's going up weekly

or in this case fairly strongly
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2008, 07:12:59 AM »

>Does a cup of granulated sugar really weigh a whole pound?

If you are referring to my post Sgt.? I didn't say it was exact but most feel close enough to do away w/the conversions grin!

I have seen it referenced several places. Where--- I can't remember.
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