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Offline bmacior

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5:3 syrup
« on: September 19, 2008, 09:27:47 AM »
I've read in a couple different posts of using 5:3 syrup.  I'm no mathematician :oops:, give me measurments.   What's its purpose?

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2008, 11:52:29 AM »
generally you feed 2:1 syrup in the fall and 5:3 is pretty close to 2:1 except not quite so thick and easier to mix up. so that would be 5 lbs of sugar to 3 pints of water.

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2008, 01:16:14 PM »
Randy  ? 5# suger to 3( PINTS)water that sounds a little thick?????

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2008, 02:46:17 PM »
i mixed up some 2:1 a few days ago and used 25 lbs of sugar and 1 1/2 gallons of water plus about another cup of water. it was pretty thick like it was supposed to be.
as I have learned from others on this board...a pint's a pound the world around. 8 pints=1 gallon. you have to heat up the water to get the sugar to dissolve.

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 03:57:13 PM »
Thanks Randy, guess i'm feeding way too lite ,10# sugar-2 gal.water. It tasted sweet to me but, I ain't no bee. I just put it out Wednesday. I'll check to see what they are doing with it next week. jimmy

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2008, 05:21:35 PM »
Here we go with my math,
1:1  according to beekeeping for dummies is 5 lbs. sugar:2 1/2 qts (10 pints) water. 
2:1  then should be 10 lbs:10 pints. 
2:1  5 lbs:5 pints
2:1  25 lbs:25 pints.  25 pints = 3.1259 gallons.  (conversion chart)  .1259 gallon = 1 pint.  25 pints = 3 gallons + 1 pint.
According to the conversion chart 8 pints does equal 1 gallon.
Is my math wrong?  :-\

Is 5:3  5 lbs:3 pints? :?

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 05:28:35 PM »
I know on Michael Bush's web page he says:  1:1 is 10# Sugar and 10 pints water, 2:1 is 10# sugar and 5 pints water.  I hope I have this right because this is what I have been doing now.


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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 05:57:32 PM »
I paid $13.48 for 26 # granulated sugar at Winn Dixie on Tuesday of this week. Anyone know where to get a better deal worth the drive? Thanks.

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2008, 06:24:45 PM »
Here we go with my math,
1:1  according to beekeeping for dummies is 5 lbs. sugar:2 1/2 qts (10 pints) water. 
2:1  then should be 10 lbs:10 pints. 
2:1  5 lbs:5 pints
2:1  25 lbs:25 pints.  25 pints = 3.1259 gallons.  (conversion chart)  .1259 gallon = 1 pint.  25 pints = 3 gallons + 1 pint.
According to the conversion chart 8 pints does equal 1 gallon.
Is my math wrong?  :-\

Is 5:3  5 lbs:3 pints? :?

but 2 1/2 quarts of water is 5 pints not 10. 2 pints to a quart. 4 quarts to a gallon.

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2008, 06:37:06 PM »
Oops :-D  Told you math wasn't my strong suit.  Was trying to get back here hopefully before anyone else and correct the 2 1/2 qts to equal 5 pints.  Good thing I mixed my syrup using qts not pints. :lol:

So, does everybody agree that 5:3 is  5 lbs:3 pints?  We know we don't want me doing the calculations. :fishhit:

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2008, 06:55:07 PM »
I paid $13.48 for 26 # granulated sugar at Winn Dixie on Tuesday of this week. Anyone know where to get a better deal worth the drive? Thanks.
$11.56 for 25 lbs at walmart. (46.24 cents per pound). Winn Dixie is 51.85 cents a pound. Not much difference.

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2008, 07:35:19 PM »
Everyone bee very careful.....you must use cane or beet sugar and not ordinary granulated sugar as they will have a digestion problem.

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2008, 08:16:18 PM »
Everyone bee very careful.....you must use cane or beet sugar and not ordinary granulated sugar as they will have a digestion problem.

John

From what I've been told you don't want cane sugar because it will tear up their gut. I buy the syrup from dadant and right now it is a sucrose and hfcs mix. 70 gallons is like $230.00 and that only gives the girls about 1 jar each even when I add a little water to the mix. Nothing beats a honey flow even when it is a minor one.

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2008, 09:02:44 PM »
granulated sugar is beet or cane sugar, and is sucrose (ie table sugar C12-H22-O11)


and I'm still looking for info on 5:3.


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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2008, 10:38:25 PM »
A pint of water weighs roughly 1 pound.  1:1 is one pound sugar to one pound (pint) water.  5:3 is 5 pounds sugar to 3 pounds (pints) water, so yea, you're right.
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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2008, 12:37:58 AM »
It doesn't matter. The measurements are so close most folks, to make it easier just use container size.

5:3 Ratio
Ex. 5 cups sugar to 3 cups water
   
Or 5 pints sugar to 3 pints water

Just forget the conversions --- the bees don't really care :-D!

>you must use cane or beet sugar and not ordinary granulated sugar as they will have a digestion problem.

Granulated sugar right out the store is what most that feed small amounts use. Seems the controversy is now over HFCS. 
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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2008, 01:06:13 AM »
Does a cup of granulated sugar really weigh a whole pound?  Seems like the 5lb bags of sugar contain a lot more than just 5 cups of sugar to me.


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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2008, 06:07:43 AM »
I paid $13.48 for 26 # granulated sugar at Winn Dixie on Tuesday of this week. Anyone know where to get a better deal worth the drive? Thanks.

 a hundred pounds at Sams on 9/08 was $46.32
 a hundred pounds at Sams on 9/16 was $48.92
  like everything, it's going up weekly

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2008, 07:06:48 AM »
I paid $13.48 for 26 # granulated sugar at Winn Dixie on Tuesday of this week. Anyone know where to get a better deal worth the drive? Thanks.

 a hundred pounds at Sams on 9/08 was $46.32
 a hundred pounds at Sams on 9/16 was $48.92
  like everything, it's going up weekly

or in this case fairly strongly

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Re: 5:3 syrup
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2008, 08:12:59 AM »
>Does a cup of granulated sugar really weigh a whole pound?

If you are referring to my post Sgt.? I didn't say it was exact but most feel close enough to do away w/the conversions :-D!

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