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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2008, 06:58:50 AM »

Actually, Anonymous, the hacker group that the hackers are being labelled as "affiliated with"... isn't political in nature.

Also, yes it does make it different, and until those aspiring senators actually run for pres., they should keep their privacy.  But once they enter the race and are a serious contender (we're not talking about green party candidates here... everyone knows they have no chance), the only things about them that the people shouldn't know, is what they look like naked, and what they do with their spouse while naked.  Everything else, from their health, to their finances, to their diary, should be made available to the public.

PS - I'm going to give up at this point, as it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, but I will leave you with this thought:  The government reads your private emails, why shouldn't you read theirs?
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2008, 07:11:21 AM »

As far as the nuclear football,the President can't launch on his own,
It is so there is a civilian decision involved in any major nuclear launch and not a decision carried out by a rogue general on the battlefield.
There's not a red button that says press to launch.
The Constitution protects the President as well as the people,he is still a civilian ,even though the term Commander in Chief  is given.
  Since all laws and spending are written by Congress ,I do believe they should be just as accountable.
Still the issue is the illegal hacking,nothing more,this is the story!!
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2008, 08:44:02 AM »

even as president there have to be times when what he/she says, and to whom, is secret.  like it or not, many thing must be done without public knowledge.  there is some risk in that, but it is a fact.  as a representative republic, we have some backstops.  we can impeach, recall, and vote in new folks.  as smart people, we understand that we can not know everything.  at  least not  until the history books are written.
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– Justice Joseph Story, "Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States," Volume II, Chapter XIII: Mode of Passing Laws, Sections 900-901, pp. 364 (1833)
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2008, 11:41:45 AM »

Does anyone else find it amusing, just how seriously Republicans take civil liberties?
That is, when they have something to hide.

When they don't, anyone worried about it is a litigious, hippie whiner.
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2008, 03:32:31 PM »

Emails pertaining to public issues-IF SENT PRIVATELY- to avoid public scrutiny is unethical. If done, should be public record. Unfortunately, if you are innocent, then your privacy is invaded and violated for nothing. Often, items such as this are usually reviewed in-camera by courts. Unfortunately, we have become so polarized that I doubt anyone trusts the "other side" enough to give an honest opinion about email contents.

Circumstantial evidence exists to taint Plailin's assertions about them being private. Because she says they are private doesn't make it so. There appears to be a pattern of avoiding disclosure and no one trusts anyone anymore....
In this instance they should be made public. She certainly cant claim "national Security" as a reason
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