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« on: August 20, 2008, 02:38:42 PM »

Hi Everyone:

Cindi asked me to post this separately, I had brought this up in a post by Mick and I sure don't want to steal his moment.

I was in a car accident Tuesday, I think I'm blessed to be home and alive. While leaving work at 1:30pm I rounded a turn toward a long stretch of straight road, as I got out of the first turn, suddenly EVERYTHING went BLACK and I could hear myself saying "Hit the breaks, hit the breaks!" and then I went out cold, my car kept going nearly 1000 feet, went off the road and smashed into a pine tree 1.5 feet thick - all while I was out could.

My boss was a few rounding that first turn and just missed me hitting the tree. He actually was standing outside my car, trying to pry my door open when I came to. My car ENGINE crashed partway through my dash, smashing all the instrumentation, immatation wood grain and it was so tramatic the ROOF of my car got indented almost 2 feet too.

I tried getting out of the car and immediately knew something was wrong with my right leg, back or hip - I couldn't put any weight on it. The base ambulance took me to the hospital, in some hefty pain but fully able to answer all questions and vitals were all good considaring all.

I had 7 x-rays and 4 CT scans, looking for obvious trama and embalisms that might have caused the fainting. All was negative (thank God) and although the Dr. believes after the testing that a HEART MURMUR caused the blackout, tomorrow I get a 24 heart holter to wear.

I'm home, they couldn't justify keeping me, although I can not walk alone, I do have a walker that is helping me get around a little, but Tracey really is there to catch me as my back gives out. SCAREY STUFF and I know I 'll be hurting awhile, my poor car with less than 40K miles is worth about $500 scrap now, but I'm walking, talking and typing, so I'm in peace with the world tonight!

I sure hope they find out WHAT happened for sure, I can't imagine if I had made it to the highway, or if a passing car or joggers went by me - it would be a very sad sad day.

Didn't mean to THREAD your message Mick, best wishes - with your communication skills, you have a leg up on many others. Talk soon.

Day 2:

I'm sorer in more places than yesterday (of course) but the back are side has eased a little (enough to stand and pace the house a little with the walker. I agree about the car, I liked it, we had 7 good years together and YESTERDAY "it" save my life. She didn't make out so well, but she sure paid for herself.

I can't drive until AFTER the heart holter reading results (fill you in later on those when I get it back) and I'll be dealing with about a 7 on the pain scale when moving around, around a 3 when resting when I can find a comfortable spot, all in all - I feel bless to be sitting here typing, trust me I'm humbled to still be alive and not a scratch on me. When I saw my dash completely exploded in, and a bug tree cut in half, I knew this could have been one of those placed you see flowers on the side of the road as a memorial - Lord thank you!

Thanks to all, I'll be okay here, just got to work out the kinks, literally.

NEW COMMENTS on WEDNESDAY Just went to the tow yard, saw and cleaned out the car and the plates (well, Tracey did, I can't bend any yet, but I did walk pretty good with the walker, I feel the pains that set in after the BIGGER PAINS mellow a bit, so I'm recovering, but hurting in my lower right side, and left shoulder blade. I'll be okay, but I'm sure sore for quite a while.

Cindi your post to Mick and Me was so right-on, I'm a guy who appriciates the simpler things, spending time with my wonderful wife, kickin' back and watching movies on TV together, occasionally going out to dinner.

I've mentioned before my trust and faith in the forums future, out Mods are great guys and any are ready to take the reigns if needed. I'll be away a bit from the forum, I can't sit too long with cramping up and it always feels like a set-back when I feel my back and knees going out from under me. But I'm around, and will keep everyone posted.

To all those who have and will send PMs, I promise to read them all, forgive me if I can't get back to everyone - it is just tough now, but your prayers and friendships touch me as always. I've said it before, we may not be the largest forum out there, but we have QUALITY FRIENDSHIP here and I'd take that over 50 times our membership, you guys are something else and I'm proud to know each and everyone who I've met here and in person, makes a fellow proud to have started something that so many people visit many times a day - it shows in all that everyone here does is right and I just needed to type this and let you all know Beemaster Forums will be here for us for a very long time. Bless you all Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2008, 03:21:46 PM »

John, glad you're doing better, that must have been one big scare, yes, I bet you are counting your blessings you are here, take some time off and heal yourself, catch your breath, take one day at a time, we are all here for you, best of wishes.


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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2008, 03:51:34 PM »

small blessings are powerful blessings too! hoping for a complete recovery and fast healing too! Glad you are ok. I was going to PM you about somehting else but wil bother robo!!!
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2008, 03:58:05 PM »

Holy crap.

Well, I don't know you as well as many of the folks here, John - but I'm really glad you're OK and on the mend.

Question for you - have you ever had a serious head injury of any sort at any point in your life? If so, be sure to tell your Docs about it, no matter how long ago it might have been.

Reason I mention it - I had a couple of 'spells' last fall that were similar to your blackout, although luckily none while I was driving. After numerous (and insanely expensive) scans, tests, exams, and procedures (during which they scared me and my wife to death talking about aneurysms and tumors, etc.) the neurologists finally decided that what I was suffering was connected to a kayaking accident I'd suffered nearly a decade ago when I busted my head and face on a rock.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2008, 04:12:37 PM »

Good Lord John,
I am glad you are alright. Becareful out there will you. There are a lot of us that depend on you and this site for our daily dose of sanity. Oh wait!! The site would still be here right grin
Ok I feel better,,, Not nearly as worried now cool cool
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2008, 05:55:11 PM »

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Sorry to hear about your accident, I hope that you have a speedy recovery.  And that it is not a recuring event.

I will be praying for ya.

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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2008, 06:14:44 PM »

  Golly John!
It seemed that for awhile there everything was going so good for you, new house and all. And then THIS!
 I'm very thankful you didnt end up in worse shape! I'll pray that theres nothing bad that made you black out.
 Maybe you'll be able to find something good on TV!...TV and codeine are a pretty good combination! Oh....A bag of doritos too!
 Well, just take care the best you can and watch out for the dogs laying in front of your feet!

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2008, 07:36:06 PM »

Mr John; sho sorry to heary you done scuffed up  Will be saying a prayer o 2 fo you; you take care and will be looking fo you on ventro to get all the details
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 10:15:39 PM »

Oh my!  What an ordeal!  Hopefully the cause isn't serious, you will be in my prayers for a speedy recovery.  It's amazing how you find new pains as the days go on, our bodies weren't meant to be bashed about like that!  Take it easy & give yourself time to heal, keep carefully moving & stretching though as you will seize up if you don't.  Jody
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2008, 10:37:40 AM »

John, beauty, thank you for taking the time (and the rather longish post, hee, hee, kidding, evil rolleyes Wink Smiley Smiley Smiley   I know you are long-winded, as I can also be) to tell us in-depth of the accident and the resulting pain.  Oh dear....the gauge of pain around the 7 mark is pretty bad, not very often have I encountered that kind of pain, only but a few times in my life, I know it must be very bad.  Ouch!!!  Your body will make you take that time to heal, not a doubt about that, listen to your body, it holds a wealth of knowledge on how to make you listen within yourself, listen carefully to it.

I hope that insurance will cover the car?  I don't know how it works in the U.S., but in Canada, the insurance still covers this kind of stuff.  Get a car that is similar to the one that died.  She very obviously carried you through to some major safety stuff.  Other cars would have let you down, and yep, yep, you probably would have been that great pile of flowers.....thanking my lucky stars that you are reasonably safe and sound.  I know that you may find out that it is just a mind bleep, I know you will keep us posted, good luck, allow your wonderful Wife to take care of you, as I know that she will.

Card, that is amazing that an injury from so long ago could affect one so badly that many years afterwards, good that you eventually found out what was truly going on, cool.

Have the most wonderful day, safe days, love our lives that are so precious, live them, every day, like there narry was a tomorrow!!!  Cindi
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2008, 11:23:03 AM »

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I hope that insurance will cover the car?
That kind of depends on what sort of coverage he was carrying on the car. Here in the US, there are basically two kinds: Full Coverage or Liability. Full Coverage will replace/repair your vehicle and anyone else's you damage during the wreck, assuming you're responsible. Liability only covers the other guy's damage.

Most people in the US are required to pay the (much) higher cost for Full Coverage as long as they're still making car payments to the bank (so the bank will still have something to repossess if you wreck it and stop making your payments) but once people own the car outright most will only carry Liability insurance, meaning in a single-vehicle accident like this the insurance company won't pay anything.

Since John's car had less than 40K miles on it, he was probably still making payments and therefore would have had Full Coverage - so hopefully the insurance company will cover it. It still hurts, because they never pay you what it would take to replace your car - they only pay you what your car was worth, but it's a lot better than nothing.


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Card, that is amazing that an injury from so long ago could affect one so badly that many years afterwards...
Yeah, you can probably imagine how surprised I was to hear that. I hadn't even considered it until the neurologist started pointing out all the fracture lines in my skull that showed up on the scans. That was a funny conversation, actually. He frowned, furrowed his brow, stuttered around a little bit and finally said "Mr. Thomas, just what exactly have you done to your head?"

Basically it was one of those situations where it came down to Rock vs. Face and Rock wins every time. Broke a bunch of bone in my face, nose and jaw, knocked most of my teeth out, scrambled my eggs, etc. As I understand it (and keep in mind I'm a poorly educated hillbilly so my understanding wasn't all that great) this may have compromised some of the arteries and things that move blood around in my noggin, and even though the injury happened a long time ago, I'm reaching That Certain Age (that's what the Doctor called it) so that when I get stressed, or my blood pressure goes up, or whatever, things don't work as efficiently as they were designed to do and I can get some weird side effects - like blacking out. They eventually put me on some standard blood pressure meds to keep me from blowing a gasket somewhere, and the spells went away.

There was some scarring and some weird looking things going on with my face afterward, but I wasn't a pretty man to begin with so it was no great loss. I'm not going to say I'd forgotten about it, but it was so long ago I just didn't think about it anymore, and didn't associate it with the blackouts until the Doctor askd me why my scan looked like a poorly-drawn topo map of the Yucatan Peninsula. cool
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2008, 11:53:45 AM »

Cindi and all Smiley

Thanks again for the kind words all - day three and I can pivot some on my right side when walking, I couldn't do that yesterday without terrible shooting pain. I just now got back from my doctor who is ROYALLY P.O.ed at the hospital for releasing me - he said it is one thing if you have and accident and THEN pass-out, it is another if you pass out first.

I have a cardiac appointment tomorrow to have a heart monitor put on for 24 hours and Tracey is making the Neurologist appointment now. I am feeling better, no doubt but I got a bit of road ahead of me that may be tough, I sit here wondering how I'll be climbing in and out of boilers in the near future and can't imagine doing it, but that will come with healing I believe.

On insurance, I did have full coverage (that's where collision insurance pays for the car's "blue-book value" but my 2001 Grand Marquis is only worth about $4500 even with that low milage, so at best it will be a good down-payment on a new car.

I might lease a car instead of buying, I'm studying up on it at www.edmunds.com and www.kbb.com (Kelly's Blue Book) to see my best options - I only put about 5000 miles a year on my car, so leasing may be a way to affordably have a new car every 3 years - cross that when they let me drive again. I should get the okay after the heart monitor.

Lastly, my Doctor wants me to have an ultrasound of my carotid arteries to see if any blockage may be there, maybe my head was in a position to cut off blood flow for a few seconds. I'll keep you all updated as we go along, for now a short walk (using a walker but I need it less than yesterday) so I figure keep moving and work out the aches - I promise, no over-doing it. Thanks all again Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2008, 12:17:53 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2008, 11:06:09 PM »

Feel better John.  My wife and I have been there and done that too.   Cry
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2008, 12:39:23 AM »

Whens it gunna be on youtube? Thats what I want to know!

And why havent you been to the crash site taking home movies?HuhHuhHuh?? evil
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2008, 08:00:50 AM »

Wow, John, I'm surely happy you came through as intact as you did - credit that to driving a full frame vehicle (my favorite car ever was my 94 Crown Vic, that car was a dream to drive, although it was never tested like your Grand Marquis was!  shocked  It got good gas mileage for a full sized car, too).   I don't drop by here right now as often as I should and now I'm going to change that, I've got to keep track of all my Beemaster friends better! 

Be careful with 'pivoting'.  It sounds as though you've got lots of soft tissue damage, sometimes it's better to break bones than to teat things like tendons, cartilage and muscles.  Let things heal and be sure to take advantage of any physical therapy suggested, you'll be much better off in the long run.  As Card has said, injuries have a tendency to come back to haunt us years later, if you take the time to get things healed and moving properly you'll be in better shape to deal with it all.
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2008, 09:37:39 AM »

Mick, I don't doubt for a minute that once John gets the go ahead to drive again, he will be at the crash site, camera in-tow, then comes the narration on you tube!!!  Yeah!!!

OK John.  Good.  You are improving already dramatically, I can see that.  Keep that chin up, keep on moving the body, still listen to your body, don't overdo it....baby steps, baby steps.  So glad to hear of these good things, keep on keepin' us up to date with your life.  Have the most wonderful and awesome day, Cindi
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2008, 02:26:57 AM »

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I think the next time the aliens abduct you for an anal probing that you should request to be returned at a much safer time and place (perhaps a king size bed in the playboy mansion?).

Or maybe better yet, they should just leave you alone and do some cow mutilations.

Them darn cows, all permiscuious and stuff.... got their boobs all hanging out, I think they might be asking for it.

I don't know, it just seems like there is a better way than borrowing you and the dropping you off in a bad situation, but what do I know, I've never been 'borrowed' for an anal probing.

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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2008, 12:05:00 PM »

Cindi and all Smiley

I might lease a car instead of buying, I'm studying up on it at www.edmunds.com and www.kbb.com (Kelly's Blue Book) to see my best options - I only put about 5000 miles a year on my car, so leasing may be a way to affordably have a new car every 3 years - cross that when they let me drive again. I should get the okay after the heart monitor.

 happy to hear you're feelin better, and if I were you, i'd really do some serious thinking about renting a car.. we done it once and never again. for one thing you'll always have a car payment.  with you just putting 5000 miles a yr on , you could own the car in a few yrs and ride free so to speak for the next 150,000 miles or for yrs, cars don't wear out like they used to if the maintence schedule is followed.
 We rented once and then bought the car when the lease was up, didn't read the fine print til it was to late and found out we were paying about 12% interest as it was a used car as we were the ones that used it. we traded it in on a new car that day , paid it off in a couple yrs. We now have 2 cars paid for that should last for the next 6 yrs. 150,000 miles isn't all that much for todays cars.
 we have 114,000 miles on a 03 Focus Wagon that hasn't cost us anything yet except for the services that I do and it should last another 4 yrs to bounce around town with. I've had 4 hot hives in the back and rode them over a hundred miles.
 our other car is an 05 Sonota, it's been a great car but just found out that when it has 60,000, we have to take it to the dealers and have a new timming belt, plugs and wires put on or the warrenty is void. that's about 800. that we didn't plan on, but well worth it if it lasts another 60,000 miles with no problems.
 
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Leasing is a good idea - to line the pockets of the car dealerships.  Seriously, buy, don't lease.
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