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« on: January 09, 2005, 09:12:03 AM »

Oh wonderous Bee Man....
I immediately thought of you when my friend sent me two photos of swarms of honeybees that are clinging under the eaves of her house seeking shelter from the torrential rains in So. California.

Is there any "advice" you could give her? She wants to of course, have them relocated but in the interim is terrified of them. She said the rains are killing them and it's breaking her heart. I have the photos of the swarms I'd like to forward to you. Can you give her any other suggestions other than the one I gave her to try to reach and find a bee keeper to "gather". I've tried to go back to the website you sent me but I think Boo cleaned out the "closet" and I cannot get back to that PM you had sent me in August, I think.


Would you pm me back with a response if you have one? I'll glady do all I can do to help her save these lil buzzers. Thanks!

Linda
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2005, 09:22:03 AM »

My return reply

Linda,
   Thank you for thinking of me when a bee problem arises. You did give your friend the best advice to search in the phone book for a bee keeper in the area. Also call the county extension agency, Untied States Deptment of Agculture{s/p??}  and ask about bee keepers in the area. Our local Newspaper also has a call list of area beekeepers who will remove swarms.
Those Honey bees will not normally harm a person unless they are pinched or feel that some thing is trying to steal there honey stores. But I also have never came across a swarm in rain storms with out shelter.
We do have a couple of members on the bee forum who are in California.
 http://www.beemaster.com/beebbs/
Your friend need not sign up as a member to post there. Just do a post with the question about some one in that area collecting the bees and give the location.
 
Also a older forum for bee keepers who might have a member in the area to help is
http://www.beesource.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/Ultimatebb.cgi?action=intro
 
I found these members a bit less helpful for beginning beekeepers but there are still some that bend over back wards to help.
Not sure about being able to post with out being a member here so your friend might want to just contact the admin. and ask them to do the post of help in some way.
Admin@beesource.com
 
 
Oh ya I am not the beemaster that title belongs to John. I'm Just a moderator trail twister there.
Would you please let me know how things turn out?
Thank you
{:-) Al
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2005, 09:25:23 AM »

Thanks SOOOO much for your info!  I forwarded it onto Janet.. hopefully GOOD resolve is on the horizon!
 
Attached are her "strays".....  I've asked her to keep us posted...  hopefully no mites or diseases are in these swarms and some happy collector wants them....
 





 Smiley I'm requesting a location on this swarm from Linda.

 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2005, 11:43:30 PM »

Wow, that looks like one big swarm!!  Sometimes local police departments also have names of local beekeepers who are willing to collect swarms. I know they do in my town! Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2005, 09:56:27 AM »

I forwarded you email to Janet for her info...  I know she's in the LA Area... but as to exactly what town... I'll just wait for her response.  You're my BEE ANGEL!  (Never been in a "bee rescue" mission before but it's an experience I'm learning from with the visits to the links you've sent!
Thanks Ol G..... youzdaBEST!


Here's the email response I got from Janet....  Not fully aware of where La Verne California is but as she states... close to the LA Fairgrounds.  
Thanks for your help as always!
 I'll get her phone number should you get someone contacting you to take these sweeties home with them.

Hi Clammy!!
I live in La Verne near the LA county fair....





From the e mail I got they have moved under the homes eves now.

 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2005, 09:18:55 PM »

Just have her give me a call I live in Hollywood I could help
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2005, 09:21:05 PM »

Have the gal call me I live in hollywood I could help kirk-o
3236469651 any time day or night
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2005, 09:39:00 AM »

Thank You very much Kirk-o. I have forwarded you number to the lady. I hope you can save them and they are a top producer hive for you once the weather stablelizes.
I have been watching the news reports and is sure doesn't look good at all. Hope you and your hives are safe and doing well also.
Again Thank You  Smiley  Smiley  Smiley
 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2005, 09:11:58 PM »

Hey Buddy I guess they have been there since new years.It broke the record for rain in 100 years hear Beverly hills got 20 inches in ten days
wow I'm going to get my stuff in the morning and I'm going to get them
in the afternoon. I'll let you know how it turns out
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2005, 08:55:55 AM »

Yup I do believe you will probably have to requeen since most swarms are led by old queens but maybe it will be a good colony for you never the less.
Again thanks for helping out. Got to love how the long distance thing works out.
 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2005, 10:37:56 PM »

All taken care of bees safe and sound
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2005, 08:33:47 AM »

Thank You Kirk-o.  I am so impressed that 4 people spread out across the country could some how come together and save a colony of bees.

 Smiley I for one would love to hear of just how you collected them. From the pictures it didn't appear as though they could be shook into a hive.
 Smiley Any idea, now that you have seen them first hand about the amount of bees in the swarm?

Thank You again.
 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2005, 12:41:24 PM »

Yeah! I'm glad to hear the girls are safe and sound.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2005, 01:22:17 PM »

Thank you Al and Kirk for helping my friend out with her swarm!  I KNEW Al was THE guy to call when the distressful news first was heard.  GOTTA LOVE nature related forums!  Who'd a THUNK IT?

Kirk... YUMMMMMMMMM locust blossoms for breakfast?!?!?!  You sure know how to pick the spot!  Thanks again!!!  Janet I'm certain is STILL on cloud nine as she was when she called me to let me know you were THERE!

GOOD WORK YOU BEE PEOPLE!
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2005, 04:26:04 PM »

Here is a good reason to give your location in your profile.
I know a swarm has to be fed at this time of year but you would even have to feed a package of bees you bought and at this time of year i would think you would be hard pressed to find a seller anyway.
 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2005, 08:35:18 PM »

Hey guys this how I collected the bees
1 put the bottom board with one medium supper on theground 2 lift up pot with bees on it set on top of frames 3 spray sugar water on bees to reduce flying around and to give them something to eat. wait a few minutes, 4 take clean paint brush and brush them down into hive (queens like dark places) bees went in  place pollen patty on top of bees
put lid on 5 stuff nylons in entrance put in truck take to urban farms 6 fthursday morning add one empty full deep super add one gallon quail watering bottle full of syrup put on lid
done deal kirk-0
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2005, 02:00:45 PM »

Thanks for the information Kirk-o. I had wondered about sweeping them into a container, If I were the one collecting them.
Also want to say thank you to all who were praying for a safe recovery of the swarm.
 cheesy  cheesy I must say we all sure have that bee fever.
 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2005, 06:32:10 PM »

hEY TAILTWISTER I CHECKED THE SWARM I SAVED LAST WEEK THEY HAVE TAKEN A GALLON OF FOOD ONE POLLEN PATTIE AND HAVE TWO FRAMES DRAWN WITH EGGS IN THEM THERE TAKING OFF
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2005, 07:41:00 PM »

Nice to live down in the bannana belt.  The only sign of bees around here are the dead ones being chucked out the entrance  when the temps moderate a bit.
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2005, 03:51:51 PM »

Kirk-o glad to here the girls are doing well. I'll pass the information on to clammy. She is a funny lady as I had told her she was a insect world medal of honor winner. She wouldn't except the credit, said that went to you and I. Nothing would have gotten done if she hadn't contacted me to find some help.
I am still amazed at 4 people on the internet being able to save a swarm of bees.
  Cheesy  Al
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2005, 03:41:16 PM »

O K here is the latest update on the swarm rescued in January.Two days ago I went through the hive I got out of the bird house last spring they had two mediums of brood and two mediums of honey just packed no room for anything else and alot of bees.I took one medium full of honey and bees and added to the swarm I rescued in January,Newspaper method.Tthe other medium of honey and bees and added it to my hive I purchased last year .I had to requeen this hive last year late it was a weak hive I then added a new Deep on the Birdhouse hive did this twwo days ago went this morning every one is happy and doing bee work I'm trying to get them booming for the april flows I'll keeep you posted
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2005, 08:18:52 PM »

Sounds great Kirk-o. Clammy and I have been feilding questions a lot about bees since you got the swarm. They were very impressed when I told them you live in an apartment and still keep bees. Most of them didn't believe you could keep bee in a city. thought there was some kind of law on the books that forbid it.
 cheesy  cheesy  Check the local rules.

 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2005, 09:52:29 AM »

Hey Buddy
Well I herd thar it is against yhe law to have bees in the city here in L A.I Know a guy who had some and the neighbor complained had to move them.The Agriculture Rep told me if you havw more than 2 hives you have to register them but nobody ever doses.WereI live about 5 minutes from Hollywood it is very hilly and lots of trees.I had 4 bee hives right on Sunset Blvd by the Fire Station at a community garden the land owner locke everyone out and removed my bees would not let even by them back.So I started over last year.I'm now in the process of Planting African Blue Basil Milkweed Anise Hyoops and Cat nip in large numbers at the Urban farm as bee forage It is really starting to come together I figure in a couple of years It will be done  oh I'm going to get some Black Locust seedlings also So I had no place to garden or bee keep so I had to get inventive.I want to save the bees kirk-o
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2005, 10:12:08 AM »

Sad Well that was rotten of the land owner not to allow you to recover your bees and equipment.
 Smiley  Kare and I planted a garden just for the bees so to speak about 8' from the hives. It started out to be about 25' x 50' but is now close to 25' x 75'.
Look for a source of Motherwort a member of the mint family. The bees just go wild over it from (in this area) mid May to late August. Is also good as a tea to relieve cramps.  cheesy  cheesy  cheesy My friend Bob told me to do an internet search on it  cheesy  cheesy . Amazing the uses for it  cheesy  cheesy .

I got started keeping bees because I wanted to save the bees.
Now I think they are saving me.
 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2005, 01:44:13 PM »

10 four ole buddy yes mints are really great I'm starting 60 giant sunflowers today. I ussally plat the plants they talk about in the American bee journal I read were Anise Hyoops the licorice mint will produce a 1000pounds of honey a acre Thank you for your communicationkirk-0
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2005, 08:16:39 AM »

I think it is spelled Hyssop as I was searching for it. Couldn't find anything about nector amounts it produced. Really? 1,000 pounds per acre?

How many bees would that take?
What's the honey like?
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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2005, 08:46:27 AM »

Oh Yeah
I'm not the best speller.I came across this in the American Bee Journal
a couple of years ago maybe three it was based on some work by a guy named Pellet I think is his name he did a book on bee forage and planting just for bees at the time he wrote this book I think in the 50's or sixties kir-o
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2005, 10:29:04 AM »

O k Tailtwister
I feel bad about the spelling so I went and found some more data I got these seeds (Agastache scrophulariifolia)Giant Purple Hyssop I planted some at the garden I was a member of before we were Ivicted I ordered them from Tibor I.Szabo R R 1 Puslinch Ontario Canada NOB 2JO
519 763 2715 phone number they grew about three to five feet tall big purple spikes lasted 2-3 weeks the bees were all over them
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