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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2008, 12:18:45 PM »

or use zipocide under a piece of roofing felt in the bottom board... evil
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2008, 10:47:51 PM »

or use zipocide under a piece of roofing felt in the bottom board... evil

What is zipocide?

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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2008, 09:02:36 AM »

Actually it's called zipicide Dust. It is used to treat flies on cow and in cow lots. Can be puchased at most Farm feed supplies without a pesticide license. Like mentioned before, I'm sure this is not an approved method for control in Bee Hives. But, I know it will work when done properly. Make sure the the 4x4 square of felt roofing paper in secureed to a cornor of the bottom board. Staple it in a way that the SHB can go under it, but the bee's can't. Use 1/2 teaspoon per 4x4 square. Some mix it with peanut butter.

The hives I have seen it used on had no effect on the bee's. But like any pesticide I would use Caution. The use of the roach motels proected with hardware cloth seems to be a good method aswell. I have use it in several hives and seen a decrease in the SHB. I have also learned that placing my hives in hot sandy area is very helpful. I run screen bottom boards on these hives for ventilation.
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2008, 12:35:00 PM »

Zipicide:

Manufacturer: Chem-Tech
1% Co-ral®
active Ingredients:
coumaphos: 0,0-diethyl 0-(3-chloro-4-methyl-2-
oxo-2h-1-benzopyran-7-yl) Phosphorothioate 1%

inert Ingredients 99%

TOTAL 100%
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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2008, 01:28:33 PM »

Zipicide:

Manufacturer: Chem-Tech
1% Co-ral®
active Ingredients:
coumaphos: 0,0-diethyl 0-(3-chloro-4-methyl-2-
oxo-2h-1-benzopyran-7-yl) Phosphorothioate 1%

inert Ingredients 99%

TOTAL 100%


This stuff has lots of precautions, ALWAYS follow the label directions on any product. Scroll down a little to view the info on this product.

http://www.drugs.com/vet/prozap-zipcide-dust.html


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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2008, 06:35:07 PM »

I've been told Co-ral is some more bad stuff. Never used it!
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« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2012, 12:28:58 AM »

I have sinked the larvas of SHB in salt water. It took a while to kill them but it does work. Tip them into salt water, and watch them not climb out. they will die finally.
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« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2012, 08:17:29 AM »

Ome of the people that visited my local association last year said he has great luck coating the ground in about a two foot area around his hive with powdered lime about an inch or two thick.

 When the larva crawl into it the abraid themselfs and the lime acts like a dessicant to dry them out.

 I really want to try this out.
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« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2012, 05:51:07 PM »

Are your hives in full sun???   that's the best single treatment here in SC...   I have a beek friend who's hives are eat up with hive beetles in partial shade...   mine are in full sun and I have none...    of course you need to think ventilation.  With the 100 + degree days last year I decided to put screened inner covers and it must be screen not hardware clothe...   beetles can get away from the bees through #8 hardware cloth...  when I pull the top cover I can see the top of the frames and look for beetles right away...   Of course if you use #8 hardware cloth you can do what JP suggested with the boric acid/crisco thing...  but remember that hive beetles love crisco...    You might look at Freeman traps...  good luck 'cause beetles are a pain in the arse!!!

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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2012, 02:56:13 AM »

JP you are right about AJ's Beetle Eater. I love mine! But no one sells them in the US anymore, and shipping from Australia costs more than the item. I saw a guy on youtube put a oil trap under the screened bottom board, then he powered sugared them. He caught lots of SHB. I have lost several hives because of those monsters.
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« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2012, 01:51:32 PM »

So far I've had good luck with putting my hives in full sun, getting rid of inner/telescoping covers with replacement migratory covers, and managing how much space I give the bees.  My day is probably coming.

I need to make some traps for that occasion.
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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2012, 02:01:37 PM »

My big questions in all this is...

How many adult beetles is too many? When should I start to worry about them?

If I see 10 beetles? 20? Beetles crawling on comb?

Obviously slimed comb is too late.
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« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2012, 04:08:43 PM »

When I expect my hive if I see more than 5 , I put in a bettle blaster (with oil) like the AJ trap.  IF I see 10 or more, I put in several traps and seriously consider the number of bees vs space etc.  All my hives are in full sun.  You just about cant keep bees in shade around here.
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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2012, 10:39:20 PM »

I want to get a vac like used on keyboards and just vac them out when ever I see them in my hives. I wouldn't fix the problem, but it would make me feel better afro
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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2012, 09:45:42 AM »


I just read this pdf and gonna give it a try.  Looks interesting.

Since we had the warm winter, I've seen more SHB in my hives then previous years. Not overrunning but more than usual.

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« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2012, 10:11:30 AM »

I tried that system early last year with some success. Not great, but it did kill a few beetles.

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« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2012, 08:45:26 PM »

I'm a newbee.  I started 2 hives with packaged bees the first week of April.  After 2 weeks I noticed my first beetle.  Now they are in both hives, but as far as I can tell, they are under control.  When I first noticed them and did my research, I freaked out!  The future seamed quite dismal.  I immediately ordered 2) Freeman traps (he's a really nice guy) and installed them.  They are probably the best oil traps as there is no way your bees can get in and drown.  The traps have all kinds of critters in them and the SHBs are in there too.  I usually find a couple of them on the inside of of my top cover but have not seen them on the frames yet.  This evening I removed the top covers, but didn't see any at all.  The other nite around dusk I killed about 4 trying to fly into the entrance.  From what I've read, they like to lay eggs in sandy soil.  Here in this part of North Carolina we have clay soil, so that theory is not correct.  I also removed some of my empty frames so that the bees will populate the remaining frames much more densely and give the beetles less room.  I then add back the frames as they are needed.
I have no idea why I have what seems to me as a heavy population of these monsters.  I have an inspection coming up on Saturday where I'll take a good look at my frames.  I will continue to monitor the extent of this plague and hope the bees and traps will keep things under control.  Treating my lawn or the hive will be the last resort. 
I am hoping to eventually have a total of 6 hives, the other 4 will be populated with Russians which will control the beetles much better, but if I can't maintain the 2 hives I have now, I will probably have to find a new hobby although beekeeping is about the coolest thing I've done in a while.  I love my girls!
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