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« on: July 27, 2008, 08:21:48 PM »

MY NAME IS HEATHER AND I LIVE IN ARIZONA (SOUTH EASTERN) AND I HAPPENED TO NOTICE THAT EVEN MY SODA RECYCLING CAN DOESNT HAVE THE USUAL SWARM OF BEES AROUND IT THIS YEAR AND IM SCARED TO DEATH! SO IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS IVE BEEN SEARCHING THE WEB AND THIS TOWN FOR BEEKEEPERS THAT CAN GUIDE ME IN A PRIVATE HIVE OR TWO DEPENDING ON WHATS BEST FOR MY YARD. I FEEL I HAVE PLENTY OF TREES/PLANTS THAT WIL ATTRACT THEM AND MAKE EM HAPPY BUT SO FAR I JUST HAVE A TON OF HUMMINGBIRDS.... THIS SITE WAS RECOMMENDED BY A GUY I MET ON ANOTHER SITE AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF HERE SO IM GLAD TO HAVE JOINED YA'LL! THERE ARE SOME SUPER COOL PICS ON HERE THAT PEOPLE HAVE POSTED OF BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS AND BEES OF COURSE AND EVEN SOME GARDENING HELP THAT IM SOAKING UP! IM SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW! THX JOSH FOR TELLING ME ABOUT THIS SITE!!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2008, 09:26:20 PM »

Welcome aboard,
hope you enjoy this hobby as much as everyone here. stop by often and ask away any questions you may have.We are always happy to help.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2008, 09:40:06 PM »

I cannot believe that buzzbee and I have beat Cindi in our welcome. You will learn more about that inside joke later. But welcome, you will find a great group of people here who (sometimes strangely) love bees. My kids think I am crazy but they are coming around. Take your time and learn, as you can see I am only about a year ahead of you. There is a lot to learn, it is worth it. Look forward to learning with you.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2008, 11:30:46 PM »

Ha! Ha! I beat her also.

Anyway Heather welcome to the forum. My name is Annette and I am a third year beekeeper in Placerville California. I wish you well with the new hobby you will come to love.

I started with 1 bee hive and now at the moment have 2. (I just lost one last month). It is a very challenging hobby and someone here on this forum once told me that it is not for the faint of heart. There are more rewarding moments to beekeeping, but things do go wrong occasionally and there are losses. If you read through the posts you will see that if it isn't one thing, it is another.

The main thing is total commitment to helping these bees survive and that means being there and doing the necessary work involved even if you do not feel like it.  I even plan my vacations around the bees now. Well thats just me.

On a more upbeat side, it will open up a whole other world for you, the world of flowers and nature and that beautiful sound of buzzing that will warm your heart whenever you hear it and see those little creatures foraging.  Why I would even go as far as to say they can help you grow as a person especially when you experience how selfless they are to each other. (I am always thinking I wish people were like bees)

Anyway, Good luck and keep posting and asking for help.

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2008, 01:15:03 AM »

Me to and that's a first.   Welcome aboard.

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2008, 02:50:31 AM »

I might as well jump in too. Welcome Heather. Did you sleep in Cindi?
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2008, 01:54:18 PM »

Heather, welcome to our forum.  This will be a place that will be your tool for learning how to keep bees.  You will make friends, and as you can see, there is a lot of friendly kidding on our forum, we are a friendly group, this you will see.  Spend time with us, tell us your life stories and tales, particularly when you get your bees.  We are all here to listen and enjoy life. 

Now all you forum friends, I am thinking that you are all turning into brats!!!  Just like JP, the biggest one of all, hee, hee.  Have a most beautiful and wonderful day, love our lives we live.  Cindi
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2008, 03:05:09 PM »

I agree that we are brats Cindi, but as you know, "you only tease the ones that you love" You have been the inspiration to many. Therefore you become the target to even more. I look forward to the day we all get to meet face to face. It may be in heaven or hell evil, but I look forward to the day none the less. As a few people have portrayed, Heather, you will have a good time here. Get your knowledge base started and then get your bees. The search option here is awesome and we will all be here to help. Good times are ahead of you with these energetic little girls.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2008, 06:42:42 PM »

Oh Frantz, bratty, brat, brat, I surely hope we don't meet in that heavenly hell  evil Wink Smiley Smiley, and..maybe one day we will all meet indeed, that would be the best of the best!!! smiling, lots and lots.  This place is cool and is so much fun, as said, Heather, you're gonna have the time of your life with us and your new girls....beautiful and most wonderful day, Cindi
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2008, 07:23:36 PM »

lol you guys are crazy! and here I was afraid all Id meet was a bunch of old sticky men! lol  I love it! And I cant wait to get started! Is there a BETTER time of the year to start? Should I wait till another season? Im in south eastern arizona so its still hot as HELL (as previousley mentioned on here somewhere) You guys must be talking about taking a trip to Safford! haha  Thx for the welcome!!!
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2008, 07:40:23 PM »

Heather, there are a bunch of stinky old men here  evil tongue Wink Smiley Smiley Smiley, oops, I meant to say sticky, hee, hee.  I say that as kidding, we have wonderful men in our forum, you will get to love them alot.....We are that group you will enjoy.  Personally Heather, I would wait and study throughout the wintertime, and then in the late spring get your bees.  That will give you lots of time to really understand the world of the honeybee so much more, you will be more comfortable with your ease of their care.  And the anticipation of getting your bees in the spring will be so deep, it will make your head swim, hee, hee.  Beautiful and most wonderful day, Cindi
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2008, 09:28:47 PM »

 Oh man,...I missed the welcome wagon.  Sad
So, may I bring up the rear, Cindi?
 Anyways, Heather, welcome to the forums!
 I agree with Annette...bees will open your whole world up!
You will see things in such a different light from now on! I've said, again and again, that I feel most people sort of get a calling to do bees. Beekeeping, to me, is a gift from God. Its a way He shows you secret things about life in general, things that non beekeepers dont get to see. This is hard to explain but i bet by this time next year you will know what I'm talking about Smiley
Theres still bees to be had this time of year, especially in your area.But, if you have to wait till spring, you'll learn the first step to beekeeping.....patience...And when your first bees arrive, you'll feel liike a little kid again!!..Its such a cooool feeling when you can move around your 30,000 bees and not get stung..Its kinda cool for when you get your first sting too! shocked...Its kinda like being "Branded" as a beekeeper!
 I started bees last spring..Now I'm ate up with beekeeping! As are most people here! I used to think that beekeeping was so "Square"...never thought twice about seeing a hive or a person in a bee suit. Beekeeping, to me, was just a thing that unknown people do. Nobody i knew had ever mentioned it or anything....Now,....Its totally different!!..I now see beekeeping as the "Coolest" thing there is! Its like a "Secret Society" kind of! Only WE know whats really cool in the world!
 Well,..Thats all.....Except for telling you to ask lots of questions...read some books..and, start putting money aside! Smiley
 Oh yeh,....We're all sticky guys here!...Its the honey that makes us this way!!

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2008, 11:54:47 PM »

lol you guys are crazy! and here I was afraid all Id meet was a bunch of old sticky men! lol  I love it! And I cant wait to get started! Is there a BETTER time of the year to start? Should I wait till another season? Im in south eastern arizona so its still hot as HELL (as previousley mentioned on here somewhere) You guys must be talking about taking a trip to Safford! haha  Thx for the welcome!!!
Heather

If you have ants in your pants get you a nuc and you can add them to a deep, if they don't take off you can condense them again to nuc size, its all good!


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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2008, 06:44:52 AM »

Hello!

SE Arizona, huh?  You're not that far from Dee Lusby, who has done a lot of work with "natural" beekeeping:
http://members.aol.com/__121b_QoeuufjaQEy7YJBcFY47Q+opBAxJ1uGkRYr2YBW6ZpXUb3ab7rQBcg==

Maybe you could contact her & she could get you connected with some other beekeepers in your area.

And another site to read:
http://www.bushfarms.com/bees.htm
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2008, 09:35:28 AM »

Oh man,...I missed the welcome wagon.  Sad
So, may I bring up the rear, Cindi?
your friend,
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Oh John, you can talk any time you want to!!!  You have the most down-to-earth and uplifting posts, oh you make me wanna laugh, you make me wanna shout, I like the sprite in you-ou!!!!  Have the most beautiful, best day that you can muster up, you bee keeping addict!!!  Cindi
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2008, 10:25:22 AM »

Talk about late.... I didn't even know there was a welcome wagon!

Its not nice you guys left me out in the woods.

Its all fine, I don't really do welcomes or good bys - we all cross paths as we are meant to.

So, someone going to ask how many hives she wants to have?
(Are going to have a side bet how many she has in 2 years?  grin)

[I HAPPENED TO NOTICE THAT EVEN MY SODA RECYCLING CAN DOESNT HAVE THE USUAL SWARM OF BEES AROUND IT THIS YEAR]

Um... here we call those bees, wasps. Yellow jackets more specifically. And they aren't very welcome around my apiaries. They are lazy robbers of hard earned honey.
Maybe we can have an entomology class later?
I'll be the guy in the back throwing paper airplanes.

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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2008, 10:35:49 AM »

Maybe we can have an entomology class later?
I'll be the guy in the back throwing paper airplanes.
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Jeff, ahah!!!  We have another brat here on the forum in the making, hee, hee!!!  That be you, brat!!!  Have the most wonderful and awesome day, Cindi
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2008, 10:48:22 AM »

Oh man,...I missed the welcome wagon.  Sad
So, may I bring up the rear, Cindi?
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Oh John, you can talk any time you want to!!!  You have the most down-to-earth and uplifting posts, oh you make me wanna laugh, you make me wanna shout, Hey Cindi, you forgot, He makes you wanna sing!!!, I like the sprite in you-ou!!!!  Have the most beautiful, best day that you can muster up, you bee keeping addict!!!  Cindi


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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2008, 12:37:21 PM »

I bet that we have just about scared poor Heather away. She is now running into the hills screaming "crazy People". Heather we do get a little sideways sometimes. Bottom line is you will very muchy enjoy the bees and for the most part bee people. "The Most Part" We look forward to including you into the familiy of beeks.
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2008, 01:14:13 PM »

Talk about late.... I didn't even know there was a welcome wagon!

Its not nice you guys left me out in the woods.

Ummmm, maybe you are more like Irwin and SgtMaj, two other recent members who didn't seem to get the "extended" welcome committee either.  Wonder what it could be huh

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Its all fine, I don't really do welcomes or good bys - we all cross paths as we are meant to.

I'm with ya on that too..But it is OK, Cindi does such a great job she is covering for us..... If ya stick around long enough I'll get to know ya (like my recent 2 buddies Irwin and SgtMaj grin)

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So, someone going to ask how many hives she wants to have?
(Are going to have a side bet how many she has in 2 years?  grin)

Give them some time and they will get to it.  They're still too giddy.

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Um... here we call those bees, wasps. Yellow jackets more specifically. And they aren't very welcome around my apiaries. They are lazy robbers of hard earned honey.
Maybe we can have an entomology class later?
I'll be the guy in the back throwing paper airplanes.

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Ya, and what is all the yelling, it gets hard on my eyes real quick......


Anyway, welcome to the forum Heather.  Hopefully you'll stick around and not disappoint the "extended" welcome committee Wink
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2008, 05:23:29 PM »

[...maybe you are more like Irwin and SgtMaj...]

Hey now, I wasn't going around insulting you! J/K

[...members who didn't seem to get the "extended" welcome...]

What are you talking about? I've been a member for better than two year now. I think if I remember right John (BeeMaster) actually came to my house. We drank beers ate steaks and talked about faking the moon landing, ghosts, and reincarnation. He might even have asked me to be a moderator a few dozen times, but I told him that I far too busy teaching cripple children and saving kittens from trees. But I told him if I ever turned EVIL that I would be glad to be a moderator.

[...They're still too giddy.]

And you think that's going to end anytime soon?



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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2008, 07:18:02 PM »

THX! I SENT HER AN EMAIL! AMADA, AZ IS KINDA CLOSE...I LOOKED ON A MAP! I ASKED IF I COULD COME VISIT....NEVER KNOW TILL YOU ASK RIGHT!!!!!  BESIDES, THE HUBBY AND I LIKE TO TRAVEL AND WE'VE NEVER BEEN THERE!  THX!
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2008, 07:29:21 PM »

Talk about late.... I didn't even know there was a welcome wagon!

Its not nice you guys left me out in the woods.

Its all fine, I don't really do welcomes or good bys - we all cross paths as we are meant to.

So, someone going to ask how many hives she wants to have?
(Are going to have a side bet how many she has in 2 years?  grin)

[I HAPPENED TO NOTICE THAT EVEN MY SODA RECYCLING CAN DOESNT HAVE THE USUAL SWARM OF BEES AROUND IT THIS YEAR]

Um... here we call those bees, wasps. Yellow jackets more specifically. And they aren't very welcome around my apiaries. They are lazy robbers of hard earned honey.
Maybe we can have an entomology class later?
I'll be the guy in the back throwing paper airplanes.

-Jeff


[I THINK I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH A GUY LIKE YOU....LOL...HMM SURE LOOKED LIKE BEES IN MY SODA...BUT I DONT EVEN SEE WASPS THIS YEAR!!! I GUESS THATS A GOOD THING!?   AS FAR AS HOW MANY HIVES I WANT....IM THINKING ABOUT TWO? SINCE I LIVE AROUND OTHER PEOPLE....IM THINKING I CAN GET AWAY WITH TWO HIVES. I TALKED TO ONE NEIGHBOR ABOUT IT YESTERDAY....BUT IM HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THRU TO PEOPLE THAT BEES ARE GOOD-NOT BAD! HOW DO YOU GET THRU TO PEOPLE OR DO WE JUST NOT CARE AND GO ABOUT BEEKEEPING...CAUSE IM ABOUT TO THAT POINT!]
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2008, 07:30:59 PM »

I bet that we have just about scared poor Heather away. She is now running into the hills screaming "crazy People". Heather we do get a little sideways sometimes. Bottom line is you will very muchy enjoy the bees and for the most part bee people. "The Most Part" We look forward to including you into the familiy of beeks.
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2008, 07:41:19 PM »

I WAS THINKING MAYBE SOMEONES MAKING MOONSHONE OUTTA HONEY? BUT THEN I THOUGHT..MAYBE THAT WOULD TASTE PRETTY GOOD!! 
ANYWAYS, IM WANTING TO PUT MY HIVES IN THE SIDE YARD. ITS FENCED....oops! I just figured out what ya'll meant by yelling...the big letters right? Im used to talking to older people who cant see...sorry!  Anyways....side yard is fenced in so the dogs and kids cant get to em....right in that side yard are two honey suckle vines and a silver lace vine, cherry tomatoes and peppers...I have about 20 rose bushes in the back and front yard along with two apple trees and a newly planted bing cherry tree, some other stuff too...even two types of lavander.....oh strawberries too! Ive noticed people talking about "feeding" their girls...I think in the winter? and since i cant imagine you're talking about making them a rose petal salad...what are ya talking about? can you BUY pollen? Told ya...I got a lot to learn! I guess that makes me the girl in the front of the class with my hand waving like crazy while getting hit in the head with paper airplanes.....
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2008, 08:28:48 PM »

I WAS THINKING MAYBE SOMEONES MAKING MOONSHONE OUTTA HONEY? BUT THEN I THOUGHT..MAYBE THAT WOULD TASTE PRETTY GOOD!! 
ANYWAYS, IM WANTING TO PUT MY HIVES IN THE SIDE YARD. ITS FENCED....oops! I just figured out what ya'll meant by yelling...the big letters right? Im used to talking to older people who cant see...sorry!  Anyways....side yard is fenced in so the dogs and kids cant get to em....right in that side yard are two honey suckle vines and a silver lace vine, cherry tomatoes and peppers...I have about 20 rose bushes in the back and front yard along with two apple trees and a newly planted bing cherry tree, some other stuff too...even two types of lavander.....oh strawberries too! Ive noticed people talking about "feeding" their girls...I think in the winter? and since i cant imagine you're talking about making them a rose petal salad...what are ya talking about? can you BUY pollen? Told ya...I got a lot to learn! I guess that makes me the girl in the front of the class with my hand waving like crazy while getting hit in the head with paper airplanes.....
Heather

Uhh, paper airplanes? We're kinda a rowdy bunch, would definitely be spit balls!!!

Welcome to our world!!!! Kiss grin Wink


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Oh, and about the hives, def start with at least two.
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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2008, 09:47:03 PM »

Hi Heather

Annette again to tell you I think you definitely need to wait until next Spring to get your bees started. Take this time now to read, read, read and ask lots of questions. You will need to get all your equipment together and understand lots more before you get started. I am going to recommend you start by reading some beekeeping books then you will understand at least some basics.

You can start with "beekeeping for dummies", which seems to be a favorite around here. Only problem is, many things in that book are outdated such as his use of chemicals for treating mites, etc. and he doesn't explain it is better to start with supers of the same size  and also use all mediums or 8 frame supers.


I am now reading a good book, although not categorized as nicely as the dummy book. Called "Natural Beekeeping" by Ross Conrad. This is more in line with how I like to do beekeeping. Naturally.

Also we have a wonderful member here named Michael Bush who has a website filled with tons of information on beekeeping. Goggle"Bushfarms.com".

Good Luck
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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2008, 01:31:07 AM »

[..."beekeeping for dummies", which seems to be a favorite around here. ]

I think around there is California.

I know around here "BFD" is the butt of many jokes.
If you bee keep for long enough, or with much attention you will find many mistakes with the book.
I wasn't written by a beekeeper as many of the best books are.
Its a compilation of what the author thinks is good beekeeping.

I think its an OK starter book to get an overall picture, but I would not rely on it as an operators manual.

[Also we have a wonderful member here...]

Actually we have a lot of wonderful members(plural).
To pin point one person as a mere soul authority is a little narrow minded.
I think MB has developed a very informative website that can answer a lot of questions.
But nothing ever beats the experience of observing your own bees.
A lot of information on the internet/books/other beekeepers may not apply to your location.
To take one person's opinion and treat it as gospel, and use to work against your bees is shameful.
This is especially true as frequently people will post what they read and not what they do.
There is a significant difference. Sometimes people post results with only trying once.
Good results can depend on a lot of different conditions, and we don't always consider them all.

So rather than focusing on one person, or even a concept (like small cell, foundationless, natural cell, 8 frame boxes) do as Annette recomends, READ, READ, READ. And then stew on the idea for a couple weeks before you act. Re-working equipment is not only costly, its a waste time and hurts your ego. With some thought and asking around for answers from both sides of the fence, one will find what feels right to do.

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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2008, 02:27:27 AM »

[HOW DO YOU GET THRU TO PEOPLE ]

Sometimes you never do.

Sometimes a jar of honey does it.

Sometimes hearing the news reports strikes a nerve.

The best thing to do is not to push the issue.
When people are forced to accept an idea, you'll get the most resistance.
So read what you need to do to be a good neighbor.
Find out what the typical concerns are and how to address them.
Be subtle, but check to make sure that you legally can have bees where you plan to.
Never imply you have any hives, just check for "a friend". Wink

[I guess that makes me the girl in the front of the class with my hand waving like crazy while getting hit in the head with paper airplanes.....]

Don't be a geek, sit in back, there's no quizes here.
We won't let you flunk out of the class - because we won't have anyone fun play with!
I learned the hard way (by-the-way where is Finsky? I miss his input).

I think JP put gum in your hair.


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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2008, 08:42:37 AM »

[...members who didn't seem to get the "extended" welcome...]

What are you talking about? I've been a member for better than two year now. I think if I remember right John (BeeMaster) actually came to my house. We drank beers ate steaks and talked about faking the moon landing, ghosts, and reincarnation. He might even have asked me to be a moderator a few dozen times, but I told him that I far too busy teaching cripple children and saving kittens from trees. But I told him if I ever turned EVIL that I would be glad to be a moderator.


I was referring to Heather, sticking around, not you..... you've proven you don't wander too far Wink
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« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2008, 09:53:03 AM »

Jeff, I'll put where I believe Finsky is, in a nutshell.  This may be kind of harsh, and some may not like what I say, but I have a pretty good feeling I know what happened.

Finsky has spent many many long hours and posts, talking and trying to teach other beekeepers an awful lot about mite controls, in particular, with the bees.  He has put in this forum a wealth of information.  I think that he felt like no one was really listening to his words....it got him frustrated and he basically couldn't be bothered to participate anymore.  He also got very annoyed with inexperienced  beekeepers expressing their opinions in how to keep bees, without having good backup data for the things that they say.  I can recall him saying this in one of his posts.  That he didn't like the wrong informations that have been given out to new, inexperienced beekeepers.

These are only my opinions, I could be totally and 100% wrong, but that is my entire take on why Finsky is no longer an active member.  If someone disagrees with my thoughts on this, I welcome those thoughts from you.  I say, I could be wrong.....but have those gut feelings.  Have a great day, wonderful day, beautiful life. Cindi
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« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2008, 10:04:47 AM »

You can find Finsky here: http://british_beekeeping.mybb3.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=47


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« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2008, 10:07:30 AM »

[ I could be totally and 100% wrong...]

Nope you are on the mark, its just sad he was driven off or quit.
It takes guts day in and day out to do beekeeping correctly (or at least trying to correct your mistakes).

[Re: POTENTIAL BEE KEEPER/HOSTESS]

What exactly is a bee HOSTESS?
Do you invite them in to sit on the couch and serve them drinks?

Heather has a little 'bee disco lounge' where drones in their leisure suits lay around in smoky booths.
Where the only song on the jukebox is 'staying alive'.
Its crazy man, crazy.
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« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2008, 10:19:10 AM »

JP, OK, come on and tell us, how did you find out that Finsky was posting on the BBB?  Now I no longer think that you are a brat, hee, hee, and (smiling), but I think you are the nosiest guy on earth too, hee, hee, and (smiling).  Tell us more.  Have that most awesomely great and wonderful day, beautiful life.  Cindi
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« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2008, 02:21:52 PM »

 Good work JP!
 I think I'll go say hello!
 Is he still "Finsky"?
 I agree with Michael Bush having a great( In my opinion, the BEST) website for getting bee information Smiley
 About "beekeeping for dummies"...I read many other books about beekeeping before I got the dummy book. But, bee books can be sort of like the bible....You might not be able to understand it until you have "Special" help..For me, Beekeeping for Dummies was the "Special Help" which provided me the help to understand what the other bee books were trying to tell me.For me, at this time in my beekeeping life(into my second year) I'm mostly just liking doing it, whether right or wrong.For instance,......Small cell???...Queen rearing???...Man, i dont have a clue about these things rolleyes..But, what I do know, whether I'm doing my bees right or wrong, is I'm having a BLAST!..I most likely dont give the bees as much time as I should, thats for sure, but I bet I give them more time than alot of people.( I am fortunate though, as I have my piece of land and the bees are right there in the back yard near the woods).  Theres advice here that I sometimes see that is WAY ABOVE my level of experience. Finsky is a guy who seemed to really know his bees, but I think he was so sure of himself because he experienced what he advised on.
As for me,...Well, my advice I share here isnt what I would call advice...Its what I'd call, "What I did" sort of thing....This means I'm not trying to show my intelligence.Its more like "What I got away with".
 Theres 3 reasons I come here..First, to be educated..Second, because I like the people here,..And third, to be entertained grin...Those three areas cover alot of territory, dontcha know?
Well,...That all I know about this Smiley

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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2008, 03:26:26 PM »

JP, OK, come on and tell us, how did you find out that Finsky was posting on the BBB?  Now I no longer think that you are a brat, hee, hee, and (smiling), but I think you are the nosiest guy on earth too, hee, hee, and (smiling).  Tell us more.  Have that most awesomely great and wonderful day, beautiful life.  Cindi

Dallas told me Finsky was on the British Beekeeping site months ago, he goes by the title finman.

Ya know, Finsky is one tuff nut to crack, yeah he knows his stuff but at times he could be very irritable, I tried to find some common ground with him, we emailed each other for a little while but the man can be cold blooded and belligerent and I just don't have the time for negativity.

As far as being chased off, he chased himself off, all on his own doing. I even offered to make peace by having a drink of vodka and he said he only drinks for special occasions, to each his own.


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« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2008, 03:59:10 PM »

Well, I WAS going to say hello, but I decided not to and leave well enough alone.
As soon as I clicked on the link there was a post by Finsky..In just a small paragraph, he managed to "Diss" Beemaster forums, which made me get a little warm on the neck.
Oh well,...I meant to do a good thing, but, like I said, I left well enough alone..Besides, I had to register anyways, so it wasnt worth it.

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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2008, 05:10:03 PM »

lol a disco...for bees.... well here in AZ we dont disco so much as we sit around a fire passing the peyote! eh anything for the bees!! lol  No, a bee hostes (I read about this somewhere...) is someone who will let a local beekeeper put one or two hives on their property and they maintain it as well....I thought maybe I could cheat and learn better that way. Im just so stressed that I'll mess up! Still having a hard time finding someone in town here and I know ive seen hives in the desert....Just gotta catch em at the right time I guess. Dont wanna get shot tho....nothing like desert hillbillies! It would be like "wrong turn" part 3!
This Finsky guy sounds like a real treat! He must have been the prodegy child in the group (teahers pet). I have to say...I used to beat those guys up.....

So, how many pepes do organic vs non-organic beekeeping?  Id like to do organic of course....
Tootles for now!
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« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2008, 05:59:14 PM »

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[Its more like "What I got away with".]

That is a priceless assembly of words.
When you 'feel' the change from "what I got away with" to "I've prevented [something]" or an instictive "I need to do [something]" you know you have grown.
You no longer feel a sense of relief from fear, but a sense of pride for accomplishment.

I think this is when you evolve from beehaver to beekeeper.
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Sometime a hive inspection feels like the bees are laughing and saying, look "what we got away with".
Sort of like a brat child testing you. But you chuckle it off, knowing who has the upper hand.
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"desert hillbillies".... now that's just plain funny.
What do they hoard?
Old tire rims, snake skins, dead cow skeletons and wind-chimes made from beer cans?
Oh yeah, and all those re-treads from off semis trucks on the side of the road.

I know ive seen hives in the desert....Just gotta catch em at the right time I guess.
Or maybe the next time you are in the desert - drink more water - it maybe a mirage.
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« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2008, 06:07:37 PM »

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you  must have been here before! you hit the nail on the head!!!  dont forget the baby rattles made from rattle snakes!!!!  lol
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« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2008, 06:37:42 PM »

 Hi Heathernay!
 Just one quick word...Awww, never mind...I cant do just one word.....Just kind of be careful where you get your bees from, is what I want to say....It seems to me that every time they talk about Africanized bees, they talk of Arizona first. They are supposed to be here where i live too but I havent come across any...Yet.... But theres people(just a few, mind you) in the local bee club who have told me that ALL the bees around here are Africanized, and they kill off the bees that they get calls about to come get.I dont think they know what they're talking about..( Now watch,.....I'll catch some by accident, and they'll probably stay) Sad
  NWINBeekeeper, Yep, thats kind of the way i feel....I got the bees, but I'm sort of slow at doing everything I need to do...I'm kind of taking a step at a time...You know, doing it when i need to do it. I've been really lucky at this bee thing I've got going on...No beetles..No moths...Havent seen any mites but i got the stuff for them this Fall anyways... Caught some swarms, seen a few queens...LIFE IS GOOD to me so far..(Hey thats the words to a song!...Joe Walsh!)....And you know,....I'm no expert....But everybody within miles THINKS I am!!..Aaaarrrrrggghhhh!!!! grin

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« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2008, 06:58:38 PM »

i was worried about those africans after I googled arizona beekeepers.....the fire dept didnt get back to me on what type of bees made a hive outta my water meter...that meter reader sure was mad at me! like I put them there!!! which is another reason im trying to find a local keeper here in town.... we have defiantely had our share of attacks in the last few years but (knock on wood) I havent heard of any locally this year...they are focusing on west nile virus!! Bad stuff!
thx for the heads up!!!!

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« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2008, 08:30:27 PM »

 Hey NWIN,
This is FUNNY stuff!!..
I noticed a couple days ago you had your picture(avatar) posted .
Then this afternoon, I saw your wife( I thought..I was even going to tell you that she looked like someone I know but couldnt remember who....
....And Then,... shocked shocked shocked....I surely didnt think Fred Sanford was your dad!! grin

...And I dont even know how to put a pic in my avatar Sad

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« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2008, 12:41:23 AM »

[...Then this afternoon, I saw your wife( I thought..I was even going to tell you that she looked like someone I know but couldnt remember who....]

Maybe Martha Steward.... it was a joke in another post!

I thought Redd Foxx would be funny after discussing "Desert Hillbillies".

[I noticed a couple days ago you had your picture(avatar) posted .]

That was Chad Kroeger of Nickleback.   

Maybe someday you will catch more than my hand in a picture.
Until then.... keep watching.
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« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2008, 01:08:38 AM »

[...that meter reader sure was mad at me]

I'd wrap a rubber snake around the meter for the next reading.
Your bill might be cheaper if they resolve to only 'estimate' your usage.

After that a bloody fake rubber arm....

[...we have defiantely had our share of attacks in the last few years...]

Well I would recommend getting a really good suit if you expect/willing to be called out.

[...fire dept didnt get back to me on what type of bees made a hive...]

This would require deeper testing than the fire department is capable of.
(unless they send some out to a bee lab to test? I don't what your area would do.)
But the small area of a water meter is highly suspect as AHB will select smaller cavities than EHB.

[...they are focusing on west nile virus!! Bad stuff!]

You don't think a little brain swelling is fun?

I now have little garden tractor repair shops selling pesticide blowers for home owner usage against mosquitos.  Talk about pesticide over usage. I used one while working for ORKIN and they kill a lot of non-target insects. I suspect a lot of bees are killed as it gets used near the house where lots of plants are in bloom.  The pesticides are all labeled 'not to use on bloom' and 'toxic to bees' but homeowners rearly read labels.

I have wax to render and an observation hive to build before the fair starts tomorrow... more chats later as time allows.

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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2008, 05:17:15 AM »

that meter reader sure was mad at me! like I put them there!!!

That meter reader shouldn't have even had to check the actual meter.  Last year our water utility installed transmitters on the meters, so all they have to do is drive down the road with their reciever and it picks up our meter readings without them even having to get out of their vehicles.  Which is good because I was a bit concerned about the black widows that made a home in the meter box when we first moved in.  The water company saves a lot of money that way, too... since one reader can cover a MUCH larger area in the same amount of time.
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« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2008, 09:43:45 PM »

YEAH WELL.........YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO THIS LOVELY TOWN...WE HAVE THAT SET UP FOR THE ELECTRIC...BUT NOT THE WATER...OR GAS.....MIGHT SAVE ON MY GAS BILL NEXT YEAR SINCE THATS RIGHT WHERE IM WANTING TO PUT MY HIVES! HEE HEE HEE (FLIES OFF ON HER BROOM)....
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