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« on: July 25, 2008, 12:08:22 AM »

Pet polar bear.
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2008, 08:25:05 AM »

All that text is wrong.

The polar bear was just checking every night to see if the dogs were fat enough yet.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2008, 08:34:51 AM »

obviously this polar bear's mom did not teach him proper manners "STOP PLAYING WITH YOUR FOOD" grin

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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2008, 08:36:34 AM »

Wow!!! That is just terrific!!!


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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2008, 01:13:18 PM »

Maybe it was vegatarian?  The Bible does say in Heaven the lions will lay down with the lambs. Who says that cann't happen here to sometimes? huh
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2008, 02:01:15 PM »

(1 Tim 4:1-4 KJV) "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"

who knows?  during the reign of christ on earth we and the animals may not need to eat at all.  right now, we do.
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2008, 04:43:38 PM »

Maybe it was vegatarian?  The Bible does say in Heaven the lions will lay down with the lambs. Who says that cann't happen here to sometimes? huh

Lions often lay down with what they are eating...   grin tongue
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2008, 11:25:44 PM »

Maybe it was vegatarian?  The Bible does say in Heaven the lions will lay down with the lambs. Who says that cann't happen here to sometimes? huh

Lions often lay down with what they are eating...   grin tongue

So do I, afterward, helps the digestion.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2008, 11:20:37 PM »

(1 Tim 4:1-4 KJV) "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"

who knows?  during the reign of christ on earth we and the animals may not need to eat at all.  right now, we do.

Have you ever visited a vegan websight? Its downright scary, there are lots of people on there who refer to meat eaters as the enemy, no lie.

I will go as far to say that extreme veganism is a cult with very angry members, truthfully these people scare me, any extremest scare me for that matter.

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2008, 03:24:17 AM »

I'm an extreme apathy-ist!  I would indoctrinate you with what we believe, but what's the point?   grin
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2008, 10:35:21 AM »

we have some very nice vegetarians on here.

 i really don't care what people eat, or do, or believe.  just don't try to make me believe it or try to legislate your passion.  don't teach it to my children or grandchildren....they don't even get the basics in public school. 

i don't mind when people share their beliefs.  i sure share mine.  smiley  understand that there is a difference between sharing and beating someones brain to death with a thing.

consider that if you showed the same passion for teaching our children reading, writing, math, and science, as you do for tearing down god, country, and family; you would turn out children educated and secure enough, to make good decisions.


now i'll go burn it off at the gym  evil
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2008, 10:56:41 AM »

we have some very nice vegetarians on here.

 i really don't care what people eat, or do, or believe.  just don't try to make me believe it or try to legislate your passion.  don't teach it to my children or grandchildren....they don't even get the basics in public school. 

i don't mind when people share their beliefs.  i sure share mine.  smiley  understand that there is a difference between sharing and beating someones brain to death with a thing.

consider that if you showed the same passion for teaching our children reading, writing, math, and science, as you do for tearing down god, country, and family; you would turn out children educated and secure enough, to make good decisions.


now i'll go burn it off at the gym  evil


Not talking about vegetarians, VEGANS, Sharon is a nice one, Annette is a vegetarian, a nice person also. Extreme vegans on a few of the vegan websights abhor meat eating and meat eaters, a little reading of the flow of their posts and you can see they are a cult.


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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 04:07:49 AM »

Procrastinationists are the cult of tomorrow.   grin
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 05:12:29 AM »

Procrastinationists are the cult of tomorrow.   grin

Perhaps so...



I'll get back with you tomorrow on that one.


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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2008, 09:08:02 AM »

Extreme vegans don't eat honey, they don't want to enslave the poor bees.  Just google peta and honey.

http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=122

I think that pretty much excludes all of our fine members here. Smiley



Then there is the wackos that want to stick a kid in jail because he shot a pig, as disagreeable as that might have been......
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2008, 10:18:18 AM »

Extreme vegans don't eat honey, they don't want to enslave the poor bees.  Just google peta and honey.

http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=122

I think that pretty much excludes all of our fine members here. Smiley



Then there is the wackos that want to stick a kid in jail because he shot a pig, as disagreeable as that might have been......


We are terrible people that should be ashamed of ourselves, how dare we enslave bees and take their honey, and allow them to pollenate crops so vegans can eat poor little vegetables that are yanked out of the ground at a very young age, cut up, cooked in an oven, on a stove, put in soups, omg, the horror, the horror.

Do plants have feelings? http://www.hindu.com/seta/2004/04/22/stories/2004042200331600.htm


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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2008, 10:53:49 AM »

Now! Now! this is another hijacked post. Sorry I started the Hijack, didn't mean to. those were great pictures! My Mom is Vegan and she eats honey and loves the bees. She just doesn't eat meat, dairy products or eggs. Some times the extremist ruin it for everyone else and make them scared to try to understand why they choose to be vegans.  I understand why my mom is the way she is and sometimes I agree, but it is not because we don't like to see animals killed.  Rabbits in the garden are fair game along with raccoons!! evil
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2008, 11:42:25 PM »

Now! Now! this is another hijacked post. Sorry I started the Hijack, didn't mean to. those were great pictures! My Mom is Vegan and she eats honey and loves the bees. She just doesn't eat meat, dairy products or eggs. Some times the extremist ruin it for everyone else and make them scared to try to understand why they choose to be vegans.  I understand why my mom is the way she is and sometimes I agree, but it is not because we don't like to see animals killed.  Rabbits in the garden are fair game along with raccoons!! evil

Rabbits are delicious, the raccoons can be a slight bit greasy for some peoples tastes.  But, for what it's worth, eating anything edible is better than starving.  I've noticed that are a lot of people who get lost in the woods and starve to death with a weeks supply of food within arms reach...they just don't think a lot of that stuff is really edible.  I would bet a true vegaterian would eat chicken or rabbits before letting themselves starve.
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2008, 12:11:54 AM »

My Mom is Vegan and she eats honey and loves the bees. She just doesn't eat meat, dairy products or eggs.

Why no dairy products or eggs?
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2008, 08:34:36 AM »

My Mom is Vegan and she eats honey and loves the bees. She just doesn't eat meat, dairy products or eggs.

Why no dairy products or eggs?

True vegans Sarge eat no animal products of any kind, there are different types of vegetarians however, some eat plants and eggs but no flesh foods, these people are called ovo vegetarians, some eat plants and some dairy, lacto, some eat plants and eggs and dairy, but no flesh food of any kind, these are ovo/lacto vegetarians.


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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2008, 05:07:35 AM »

Ok, so I can kinda understand some people's desire not to eat flesh, however, I don't understand the no animal products of any kind... I mean, seriously, why not milk, or eggs for that matter?  I just don't understand their reasoning... if they even have any. 
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2008, 05:30:16 AM »

Ok, so I can kinda understand some people's desire not to eat flesh, however, I don't understand the no animal products of any kind... I mean, seriously, why not milk, or eggs for that matter?  I just don't understand their reasoning... if they even have any. 

Strict vegans choose not to eat any animal products whatsoever because they think it is cruel.


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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2008, 06:54:07 AM »

How is it cruel to drink milk?  It's cruel to NOT milk cows... in fact they can and will die if not milked.  Also, how is it cruel to eat eggs?  Those eggs are not fertilized, meaning that even if you incubate it forever, no chicken will hatch from it, and the hens will continue to lay eggs reguardless of what happens to them, so it's not cruel.  What is it supposed to be cruel to the bacteria or maggots that would otherwise have fed on the dead cow or rotting eggs?  I think the lack of protein in their diets has diminished their ability to reason if you ask me, 'cause that's just crazy.
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2008, 09:38:33 AM »

Sarge, its their mindset that eating animals or any derivative of an animal is anti-vegan, strict vegans won't wear fur either and even feed their cats and dogs vegetable diets, cats are carnivores and need lots of meat, btw.

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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2008, 10:45:23 AM »

sarge IMHO true militant vegans don't really like cows they blame them for the global warming craze due to the methane they release go figure.
I think they would rather plant some tofu creating plant on the grazzing land then have cows eating the grass, thus further depriving us carnivores of the oh so delicious red meat I was so well designed to eat.

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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2008, 11:06:59 AM »

So it doesn't bother them how many under ground dwelling creatures are disturbed, killed and maimed when tilling for planting the fruits and vegetables  huh
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2008, 11:41:09 AM »

What really bothers me about the fanatics is that I don't care what beliefs others have, just mind your own business & let me mind mine!  I do wonder if they have taken into account what it takes to make their tofu, if they are not organic the pesticides & fert. used to grow crops, fossil fuels used to harvest, elect to process, packaging, plastics...paper, grocery bags....gas & emissions used to go to the store...what it takes to make clothes, cleaners & everything else that goes into everyday living. I'm all for humane growing & processing of animals, no reason to make their short lives miserable but their purpose is to feed us...I remember a few years ago the PETA (I think) people let a bunch of minks loose up north from here...just think what that did to the local ecosystem! Not to mention that the minks were not used to hunting for themselves, watching out for cars & whatever.  Just my 2cents worth!  Jody
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2008, 11:54:58 AM »

Sarge, its their mindset that eating animals or any derivative of an animal is anti-vegan, strict vegans won't wear fur either and even feed their cats and dogs vegetable diets, cats are carnivores and need lots of meat, btw.

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Well then they shouldn't eat vegetables either... because if it wasn't for humans planting and harvesting veggies, A: most varieties wouldn't even exist, and B: none of them would be available for sale.  Last I checked, humans are animals too, so that makes vegetables a derivative of humans.  Just my 2 cents.
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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2008, 12:16:57 PM »

So it doesn't bother them how many under ground dwelling creatures are disturbed, killed and maimed when tilling for planting the fruits and vegetables  huh

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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2008, 01:11:17 PM »

the dingbats marched, protested, and molested a fur company and it's customers in Portland.  they did it for more than a year.  the company finally went out of business.  they'd been here for over 100 years.  the city would not control the protesters even though they were threatening violence and blocking the sidewalk.

Portland put up an area for (illegal) workers to gather and wait for day labor.  ONE man protested outside the enclosure and was arrested after he sat on the sidewalk.  it got about 5 min. coverage and was never mentioned again.


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Guess that company wasn't saavy enough to make a living suing the state/city for violations of the 14th amendment to the Constitution of the United States... that would be equal protection under the law by the way. 
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http://www.katu.com/news/7133786.html

http://www.katu.com/news/local/14444957.html

it's not about smart.  how much money can you spend when you already know the legal system is against you?  they never stood a chance in the SR of O.
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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2008, 02:25:22 PM »

the dingbats marched, protested, and molested a fur company and it's customers in Portland.  they did it for more than a year.  the company finally went out of business.  they'd been here for over 100 years.  the city would not control the protesters even though they were threatening violence and blocking the sidewalk.

Portland put up an area for (illegal) workers to gather and wait for day labor.  ONE man protested outside the enclosure and was arrested after he sat on the sidewalk.  it got about 5 min. coverage and was never mentioned again.




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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2008, 02:57:16 PM »

http://www.katu.com/news/7133786.html

http://www.katu.com/news/local/14444957.html

it's not about smart.  how much money can you spend when you already know the legal system is against you?  they never stood a chance in the SR of O.


That's why they would have to appeal up to the federal level... actually the case would probably start out in a federal court as state/local judges would have to requse themselves on a conflict of interest basis... kinda hard to rule against your own employer objectively. 

You're right that it would be an uphill battle for them... but here again, all they really need is to make enough to pay for relocation to move somewhere more friendly to killing animals... like Texas, or the Dakotas, etc.  Any place inland should be fine, really.  Anything they get on top of what they need to relocate is pure profit, right?
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