Need Bees Removed?
International
Beekeeping Forums
July 29, 2014, 10:02:19 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: Beemaster's official FACEBOOK page
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar bee removal Login Register Chat  

Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Getting started w/ foundationless.  (Read 2188 times)
crowhammer
New Bee
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 44

Location: Floral City, Florida


« on: July 18, 2008, 07:07:52 AM »

I'm a new beekeeper who isn't set in my way's yet. I've been reading about this foundationless frame method and think I'd like to give it a try. First in my honey supers. Than, if that goes well, I'll try it in my next hive. I'd like to know if I have the basics correct. So, I'll give a rundown of what I've picked up so far. If I'm missing some obvious element, someone please enlighten me. I would hate to have a catastrophic episode because I left out something very important through ignorance. grin
     Here's what I know so far:
1. A starter, or guide, on the top bar of the frame is very helpful. I plan on using Popsicle sticks.
2. Put in at least one frame with foundation, or comb, to give the bees a ladder and a guide to follow.
3. The hive must be level. Not sure about this one but have seen it come up in a few posts.
That's what I know so far about foundationless.
Logged
Jerrymac
Galactic Bee
******
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 6047


Location: Wolfforth Texas


« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2008, 08:41:39 AM »

I don't use the full sheet of foundation or comb. I melt wax on the removable wedge from the top bar and staple it back in. That is the guide. (when the wedge is turned it hanges just a bit lower.)

Level hive means a level hive. Bees follow gravity. If the hive is tilted, the comb will start on one frame and end up on the next frame over.
Logged

rainbow sunflower  Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.   rainbow sunflower

 Jerry

My pictures.Type in password;  youview
     http://photobucket.com/albums/v225/Jerry-mac/
Scadsobees
Galactic Bee
******
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3198


Location: Jenison, MI

Best use of smileys in a post award.


« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2008, 09:33:25 AM »

If you stick in one frame of comb and the rest empty, it will probably work fine, but they will draw out that one frame of comb to be about 4 or 5 inches thick and many of them will be a bit wavey.

You can go without a frame of foundation or comb if you are using guides, you just need to keep an eye on them as they draw it out. 

Rick
Logged

Rick
crowhammer
New Bee
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 44

Location: Floral City, Florida


« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2008, 07:59:52 PM »

Thanks, guys. I guess i should add:
4. Keep a tight eye on them as they draw out the comb.
Logged
Docking
New Bee
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3


Location: Russellville, Alabama


« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 10:24:32 AM »

If you have a super that is fully drawn, could you not checker it with empty frames? I use a sheet of foundation that has been cut into 1 inch strips.
Logged

Michael
2 Hives
Russellville, Alabama
Keith13
Super Bee
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1763


Location: Baton Rouge, LA


« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 11:02:23 AM »

crowhammer let me ask a question i'm sure you will ask soon.

What do you do when the bees start making funky comb that is not nice and strait it zig zags or gets wavy?

That's what I got going on right now

Keith
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Beemaster's Beekeeping Ring
Previous | Home | Join | Random | Next
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines | Sitemap Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.208 seconds with 21 queries.

Google visited last this page June 25, 2014, 05:45:14 PM