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beewildrd
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« on: December 12, 2004, 11:54:37 AM »

Hiya,

I had a couple of posts up here before the crash, but  I seem to have been deleted, so here I am again.

I'm thinking of keeping bees next season, or at least helping someone else to keep theirs in order to gain some experience for a planned relocation, maybe early 2006ish.

These boards have already been very helpful in my research, big thanks to the beemaster and everyone here.

I'd love to hear from any beekeepers in the UK or Ireland, so drop me a line here if you want to help a newbie out Shocked)

Cheers,
Glyn.
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2004, 12:15:28 PM »

Welcome to the site. With the help of the members here and a book or two I see no reason you can't have your own hives ASAP weather permitting.
 Cheesy Al
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2004, 03:35:41 AM »

We can be of a lot more help to you if you put your location in your profile.
Welcome again
the people here are great and love to help.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2004, 08:29:15 AM »

Quote from: beewildrd

I'd love to hear from any beekeepers in the UK or Ireland, so drop me a line here if you want to help a newbie out Shocked)
Cheers,
Glyn.


I'm a UK beekeeper. How cane I be of help?

Adam
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beewildrd
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2004, 03:49:55 PM »

Forgive me if my questions seem a bit random, I'll ask them as they occur to me ;o)

I've been wondering what sort of hive to use, i think ill go for the national, but I was wondering if there is a big difference between top and bottom beeway style hives.

Any help Adam?

Thanks again
Glyn.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2004, 03:38:45 AM »

>I've been wondering what sort of hive to use, i think ill go for the national, but I was wondering if there is a big difference between top and bottom beeway style hives.

Any reason? I mean, given you are starting, you have the chance to start with any hive design.

If you read Clive de Bruyn, or Brother Adam, they all point out a National brood (and a WBC brood is evern worse) is too small - so perhaps you should consider a Commercial, 14 x 12 Nationals, dadant or double brood box from the start?

Are you learning with a club at all? Blackhorse Apiaries nr. Woking has a selection of hives, so you can find your preferred hive, e.g. National, WBC, Commercial, Langstroth, Dadant, Skeps, Log,  Polysytrene etc. I know also, that Clive de Bruyn, in his Essex teaching apiary uses a similar wide variety of hives, to try and allow people to make their own decision.

I'm working hard here to not influence your decision! I think it very much depends on your circumstances, e.g. are you buying everything new, or buying stuff second hand, or making yourself - will you be able to "borrow" stuff from people in your club - in which case having compatible equipement can be useful.

In Scotland for example, Smith hives are popular. Both Surrey and Sussex are starting their evening classes in January (on the theory) lasts about 10 weeks, just in time to start practical club teaching sessions in April. Are you in a club? Different clubs around the country seem to have widely differeing levels on help available for beginners. You'd better let us know where you are based, I'll try and find some more info. for you.

Some people swear by top bee space, others by bottom bee space. I think *overall* people reckon top bee space is easier to work, but as an amatuer, with just a few hives, I can't imagine either should have any effect on the ammount of honey you end up with.

The only other comment I'd make, is if you buy any books about beekeeping, make sure it's an English Beekeepers who has written it. American books are fine, but it's just they don't have quite the same seasons (i.e. the wildly differeing severity in winter from one end of the country to the other), and the plants/pollen is different, the hives are different design, and the information on regulations for labelling, and coping with bee diseases is (subtely) different, mostly in what is notifiable etc.

My best two books that I use far in excess to any others is:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861260490/qid=1103013119/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_2_1/026-8241334-0118025

# Hardcover 288 pages (November 24, 1997)
# Publisher: The Crowood Press
# ISBN: 1861260490
# Category(ies): Scientific, Technical & Medical , Science & Nature
# Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars | Write a review


And....

Ted Hooper

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0713713828/qid=1103013167/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/026-8241334-0118025

# Hardcover 260 pages (July 1983)
# Publisher: Blandford P
# ISBN: 0713713828
# Other Editions: Paperback

I'm not sure if that bottom one is in print in the version mentioned above, it was recently republished with information on varroa. - just checked - it's the fourth edition you want.

I'm sure you local beekeeping suppliers would know how to get it - or you can purchase from Thones.

www.thorne.co.uk

When I started, I rang up my local bee Inspector, and met up for a pint one day - it was very useful - finding out about local clubs, good places to keep them, teaching courses etc. This only works during the winter months, as they are too busy in the summer!!!

Hope that helps,

Adam
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2004, 07:46:39 AM »

Just spotted your location, is that Salfords, Redhill Surrey, Or Salfords, Manchester, Up north?

I also sent you a PM (Private Message) with my email address - you need pop-ups enabled on this site to get them, or click the "You have 1 new message" link in the top right.

Adam
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2004, 04:02:07 PM »

Thanks a lot asleitch, you're a great help.

Its Salford near Manchester, dirty old town Smiley

I've got the Ted Hooper book, and a couple of other older, probably out of date, books from work - working in a library has its advantages.

Thanks again, I'll be in touch with the local beekeepers this week, thanks to their very helpful secretary Smiley

Cheers
Glyn.
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