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« on: May 11, 2008, 01:32:11 PM »

Remember this hive I took pics of? http://picasaweb.google.com/pyxicephalus/March142008

Well, I had made some calls to the insane asylum where the bees were located, left a few messages and not a return call. I identified myself as a beekeeper that could remove the colony live.

Not one return call.

I pass by there once a week or so, and last night my wife and I went by and I didn't see the colony, but it was dark.

Today we went back over and I see that they really are insane because they hired someone to kill the colony. There were dead bees on the ground and bits of comb still attached to the tree branches overhead.

Can't tell you how po-ed I am!!! Sobs, plain & simple. Insane sobs really.

I get maybe one or two calls a yr for a hive like this. They are usually very strong bees, as they can withstand the elements.

Oh well, that's how it goes some time, bastages.


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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2008, 02:19:50 PM »

Sad to say, but a place like that probably has a contract with a pest control company and they used them instead of calling you. Possibly an insurance liability issue for them.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2008, 05:30:07 PM »

Man, that really is sucky.
 I bet, though, Like Double bee said, it was probably a liability issue. You would think though, that whoever killed the bees would have looked for someone to keep them after being caught.......Or perhaps they were just too lazy to make arrangements.
 The liability issue comes up all the time where i work(an Air Force Base).
 Lucky for me, I'm expecting some calls from the "Entomology Branch" here. The girl there likes bees and told me she would call me first to see if I could catch the bees before they had to spray them. I think I'll be ok unless i fall off a ladder...Or unless someone else complains that they werent made the same offer as I was...You just never can tell when someones gonna ruin it for other people(or bees) huh?

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 06:14:31 PM »

i am getting calls right and left from people who have heard that all the bees are dying and they want their little hive saved.  if i wanted to travel all over two states and do this full time, i could.  shame that these folks didn't see the same reports!

having spent some time (working) on the lock up ward before, i can tell you that there are many liability issues.  not only for workers, but for patients.  even so, rules can always be bent, stretched, and broken. 
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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 08:50:54 PM »

i am getting calls right and left from people who have heard that all the bees are dying and they want their little hive saved.  if i wanted to travel all over two states and do this full time, i could.  shame that these folks didn't see the same reports!

having spent some time (working) on the lock up ward before, i can tell you that there are many liability issues.  not only for workers, but for patients.  even so, rules can always be bent, stretched, and broken. 

They never even gave me a chance, not even one return phone call. I would have signed their stupid little piece of paper.

The travesty is that this hive was completely exposed, wasn't like it was difficult to get to them, other than a tall ladder.

Some genius jackson made a very poor decision. I'm still very hot over it, trying to cool down, but its tough. angry angry angry


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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 08:57:12 PM »

is it a state hospital?  you could cause them, and the state some grief if you wanted to give the press a heads up.  you have good pics, and hopefully a record of your calls?  with all the poor bees dying off, how does the state justify killing off a perfectly good hive?   evil
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 09:02:10 PM »

is it a state hospital?  you could cause them, and the state some grief if you wanted to give the press a heads up.  you have good pics, and hopefully a record of your calls?  with all the poor bees dying off, how does the state justify killing off a perfectly good hive?   evil

I'm just gonna get over it Kathy. I'm angry, yes, but I don't want to cause anyone any headaches. They were probably ignorant about the whole thing.

On second thought maybe you and I can go over there and kick some arse and take some names!!!! evil evil evil grin

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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2008, 01:59:54 AM »

So sad JP!!! What a beautiful hive.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2008, 10:22:19 AM »

Same thing occurred in Vineland NJ. Only its now being broadcast over net, incluiding the exterminator who sprayed them. Feel your pain....I would send hospital letter explaining what you do. Also find out who exterminator is and offer your services. If he killed one, he probably killed others.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2008, 10:53:16 AM »

Same thing occurred in Vineland NJ. Only its now being broadcast over net, incluiding the exterminator who sprayed them. Feel your pain....I would send hospital letter explaining what you do. Also find out who exterminator is and offer your services. If he killed one, he probably killed others.

I'm not going to drag this thing out, or get a bunch of people involved, I will move past it. Now, Terminix is the company that referred me to it in the first place, not that they have the contract with the insane, they got a call from people from across the street about the hive and they referred me. The terminix manager and I are friends, in fact I give him honey.

You all probably know I am a pest guy, just one that likes honeybees and tries to save them from being sprayed because it is not necessary, practical, and of course not the right thing to do with an insect so wonderful and important.

Not every insect is a pest, people just don't get this sometimes, in fact more than most realize.

And no, geckos are not pests, tree frogs are not pests, and if I see anyone spraying a praying mantis, they gonna get a fistfull! Wink

I'm still fuming over the spraying of that colony and this is the main reason I won't be contacting the insane asylum any time soon. Heck, they don't return calls any way.

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2008, 11:05:43 AM »

you know the old joke about the insane running the asylum smiley.  you probably had 20 people standing around the ringing phone wringing their hands in distress.  how could they know the intentions of the caller???  and when you called back, and they knew the cause of the calls was that hive.....what else could they do?  they had to stop the ringing!  after that, they used all their aluminum foil on protective head gear.

sorry.  still on the first cup of coffee....  evil

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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2008, 11:27:33 AM »

you know the old joke about the insane running the asylum smiley.  you probably had 20 people standing around the ringing phone wringing their hands in distress.  how could they know the intentions of the caller???  and when you called back, and they knew the cause of the calls was that hive.....what else could they do?  they had to stop the ringing!  after that, they used all their aluminum foil on protective head gear.

sorry.  still on the first cup of coffee....  evil



Yup, probably spinning in circles, pacing, running back and forth, yelling and screaming for nurse ratchet to answer the phone, then a big good looking Indian who secretly can speak ten different languages, but mute to them, detaches the water fountain and throws it at the phone smashing it into a million pieces!!!

After that everyone was sedated for weeks and my phone calls, what phone calls??? grin

Thanks Kathy, I feel a lil better now.

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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2008, 10:01:36 AM »

JP, I can imagine how you feel.  That gave me kind of a sick feeling, I feel badly that people have to resort to such nasty and drastic measures to rid what they deem as pests.  To some humankind, the honeybee is a pest, plain and simple and they can't move past that.  It is a shame, and yep, the world needs to know that we need to save this species, they help to make our world a better place.  Have a beautiful, most wonderful day, Cindi
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2008, 01:25:19 PM »

JP, I can imagine how you feel.  That gave me kind of a sick feeling, I feel badly that people have to resort to such nasty and drastic measures to rid what they deem as pests.  To some humankind, the honeybee is a pest, plain and simple and they can't move past that.  It is a shame, and yep, the world needs to know that we need to save this species, they help to make our world a better place.  Have a beautiful, most wonderful day, Cindi

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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2008, 02:54:30 PM »

JP, I can imagine how you feel.  That gave me kind of a sick feeling, I feel badly that people have to resort to such nasty and drastic measures to rid what they deem as pests.  To some humankind, the honeybee is a pest, plain and simple and they can't move past that.  It is a shame, and yep, the world needs to know that we need to save this species, they help to make our world a better place.  Have a beautiful, most wonderful day, Cindi

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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2008, 09:28:55 PM »

Hey you guys,
On a different note, a note that shows someone big does care about the honeybees:
 I was watching animal planet today and saw the coolest commercial with a bee in it, flying toward a really cool flower..As soon as the bee was almost landed, the commercial quit!...The words, to the effect came up and said "The honeybee is dying out"..You just have to see it! Its put out by haagen daaz ice cream(spelling?)..Maybe someone here can find it and post a link...It was in High-Def on my tv which really made it eye catching!

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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2008, 09:36:24 PM »

Hey you guys,
On a different note, a note that shows someone big does care about the honeybees:
 I was watching animal planet today and saw the coolest commercial with a bee in it, flying toward a really cool flower..As soon as the bee was almost landed, the commercial quit!...The words, to the effect came up and said "The honeybee is dying out"..You just have to see it! Its put out by haagen daaz ice cream(spelling?)..Maybe someone here can find it and post a link...It was in High-Def on my tv which really made it eye catching!

your friend,
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2008, 08:40:09 AM »

JP, good job, you always seem to find the coolest things, now howdya do that thing?  Beautiful day, awesome day, awesome life. Cindi
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2008, 08:47:04 AM »

JP, good job, you always seem to find the coolest things, now howdya do that thing?  Beautiful day, awesome day, awesome life. Cindi

Oh, I just did a search on you tube and then pasted the link in.


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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2008, 04:01:59 PM »

great video. Says nothing, but people will remember it. Bees are dying.... Thats all I hear from people when they find out I'm a beekeeper. Its good message...
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