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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2008, 10:54:58 PM »

Kathy, good that you have the patience.  But remember.....if the chalkbrood doesn't clean up, it doesn't matter one single whit if the queen is a great layer, she may be laying wonderfully, but what a waste of her time, hee, hee.  She is doing her job, there is chalkbrood issues though, that is bad.  Good luck, it will be interesting to hear of what will come.  Have the beautiful day that you deserve.  Cindi
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2008, 11:39:43 PM »

cindi, i think it's just to early to tell.  the weather has been so crappy.  they say snow this weekend.  it's APRIL!!!!!!!!!

i  hope it's not wishful thinking on my part that this will clear up  sad
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2008, 01:33:42 AM »

I usually put cider vinegar in my simple syrup and have little Nosema problems.  Just a thought.
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2008, 07:25:59 AM »

>I usually put cider vinegar in my simple syrup and have little Nosema problems.  Just a thought.

David Eyre of www.beeworks.com says the same.
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2008, 09:25:49 AM »

Brian,

What would your ratios be for adding the vinegar?   Apple Cider vinegar?  Sounds easy...
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2008, 11:23:22 PM »

Brian,

What would your ratios be for adding the vinegar?   Apple Cider vinegar?  Sounds easy...

Roughly, a teaspoon per quart of water or pound of sugar.
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« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2008, 07:36:10 PM »

Does it make a difference if it is Apple Cider or Distilled White Vinegar?
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« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2008, 08:42:58 PM »

David Eyre uses apple cider vinegar.
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« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2008, 09:08:12 PM »

Just lost 5 hives this winter to Nosema. I sent samples to Beltsville and the report came back with a mite count of 36 from the sample and a spore count of 2,450,000 per bee. They added that 1,000,000 spores per bee was considered very high.

I got to talking to a local commercial beek about it and he told me to scrape the frames, frame rests, and hive body down real good and get a spray bottle full of common vinegar and spray every thing down with it. He said after the stuff dried out most if not all of the Nosema spores would be killed or at least reduced to the point that it would be safe to place new bees back in those hives. Anyone have any experience with this method of killing Nosema spores?
DID they identify the strain of Nosema -WAS it apis or ceranae-from what i am to understand the old tricks dont work on the ceranae strain-RDY-B
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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2008, 06:46:51 AM »

Does it make a difference if it is Apple Cider or Distilled White Vinegar?

The Stop & Shop brand of apple cider and distilled white vinegar are both diluted with water to 5% acid.
Not a plug, it's just that the rice wine vinegar and Balsamic vinegars have both lost their labels.
If you are going to add it to your syrup, then I would use the apple cider vinegar because of the extra phenols (flavor) that it will empart.
But then I've never added vinegar to syrup, so what do I know?
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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2008, 11:08:58 AM »

Thanks guys for the info.

Beltsville did not say which strain of Nosema, only that there were 2,450,000 spores per bee. Average counts of 1,000,000 spores per bee is high. The five nucs that are coming have been treated before leaving S.C. so I won't need to worry about it until this fall. That will give me time to figure out what type feeder I will use to dispense the syrup and vinegar. I've got two nice hive top feeders made of wood that work well and the other three will probably get some el cheapo paint pails or gallon jars over the hole in the inner cover.
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