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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2008, 11:41:12 AM »
Oh, my kingdom to have the skills to build anything that involves carpentry, you are a fortunate bunch, beautiful and most wonderful day, Cindi

Isn't that what you use and abuse your husband for?  :-D

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2008, 02:44:35 PM »
Cindi, you sound the way my wife used to sound when we were first married.  Now she's a fair carpenter, a better welder than I ever was (I'm now a Quadriplegic), operates our bulldozer (when she can get me off of it), our excavator (still trying to figure out how I can operate it), our hay baler, and does so many other things she never dreamed she was capable of.  You just need to say I can do this and try.  If you mess up the first time, so what!  I seldom ever get anything right the first. Just keep trying.  Just wear your safety equipment and be careful with power tools.  Just yesterday my 30 year old son was cutting some lumber for new hives and cut up sides for four boxes before I measured and found they were exactly an inch to short.  So we cut them up for ends, no big deal. YOU CAN DO IT. :)

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2008, 04:52:19 PM »
Good day all, I have been lurking here for a while now. I am wanting to try and build some swarm traps, and I was wondering if maybe a person could use a 5 gallon bucket. It would be something similar to the sonotube. A bucket with a lid and a couple of frames inside.

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2008, 05:04:02 PM »
Good day all, I have been lurking here for a while now. I am wanting to try and build some swarm traps, and I was wondering if maybe a person could use a 5 gallon bucket. It would be something similar to the sonotube. A bucket with a lid and a couple of frames inside.

The bees don't like the plastic 5 gallon buckets.

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2008, 05:39:30 PM »
Would it be possible to line the inside with cardboard. It would be easy to cut a box and form it to the bucket.

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2008, 05:58:30 PM »
I don't think you can fit standard frames in a 5 gallon bucket.  I've never tried plastic, so I'd take Brendhan word.  Perhaps the cardboard lining might help,  and don't forget the lemongrass.  It's a crap shoot anyway, so give it a try.
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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2008, 10:44:23 PM »
Robo In general I like your idea but I have a idea. If you would cut the top area out  just over size to your frames. Then  put a hinge on the piece you cut out and a hook on the othe side to keep it closed you can lift out the frames. more like a normal box. When you are ready to harvest the bees you can just open up the box and lift out the frames. Just something for you to think about. I hope this makes sence.
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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2008, 01:03:06 AM »
Redneck, welcome to our forum, so nice that you have stopped lurking and decided to join us, hee, hee.  You will find this forum a great place to ask your questions, you have already begun.  All the questions get answers, one way or another, all questions are important.  When you have a spare minute or two, tell us a little bit about yourself in the greetings forum.  We love to hear what new members are up to, and everyone has a story or two to tell.  Welcome, enjoy your stay with us, and have that beautiful and wonderful day, Cindi
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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2008, 08:52:57 AM »
Robo In general I like your idea but I have a idea. If you would cut the top area out  just over size to your frames. Then  put a hinge on the piece you cut out and a hook on the othe side to keep it closed you can lift out the frames. more like a normal box. When you are ready to harvest the bees you can just open up the box and lift out the frames. Just something for you to think about. I hope this makes sence.
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I follow you.  I don't see why it wouldn't work if you can figure out how to seal up the cuts you make to prevent water from getting in and swelling the cardboard.  I just wanted something I could throw together quickly.  The other thing is that you would probably have to add some wood support around the cuts to keep the cardboard from warping.  This would also add weight to the whole set-up.  Once you start cutting into the sonatube, it looses rigidity real fast.  Good thinking though.

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2008, 09:30:38 AM »
You know the old saying duck tape baling wire and paint. :-D
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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2008, 08:50:04 AM »
star foam minnow bucket work good tape top down drill are cut hole in have your lure in tie rope to handle and host it up

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2008, 11:18:30 PM »
Just build a nuc out of scrap,add some old brood comb,lemongrass oil, set it out and hope for the best. Who dosen't need a nuc ?
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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2008, 02:54:56 PM »
Being new to beekeeping I appreciate Rob sharing his plans for the swarm traps.  I'll pick up the sonotube tonight.  If I don't have old comb to use, what can I substitute that will attract bees.  Also, where is the best location to hang these traps?

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2008, 04:18:18 PM »
If I don't have old comb to use, what can I substitute that will attract bees. 
Lemongrass oil is a good lure
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Also, where is the best location to hang these traps?

Where the bees will find them ;)

Actually 12-15ft up in a tree is as close as you will get to a general consensus with beekeepers if there is such a thing.

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2008, 04:40:14 AM »
If I don't have old comb to use, what can I substitute that will attract bees. 
Lemongrass oil is a good lure
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Also, where is the best location to hang these traps?

Where the bees will find them ;)

Actually 12-15ft up in a tree is as close as you will get to a general consensus with beekeepers if there is such a thing.

rob...

Notice he says 12-15' is the general consensus with beekeepers, if there is such a thing!

Hey, hang 'em 12-16' Rob don't know what he's talkin' about! :-D :-*


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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2008, 02:44:18 AM »
[Notice he says 12-15' is the general consensus with beekeepers, if there is such a thing!]
[Hey, hang 'em 12-16' Rob don't know what he's talkin' about!]

They're both on crack, try 10-12', save some rope.
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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2008, 02:13:38 PM »
Now in this 12 - 15 or 16 ft off the ground, where do you start measuring from the dirt or the top of any roots sticking out?

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2008, 02:41:27 PM »
I agree with HAB that you can do whatever you set your mind to. But, for those who think they are not handy enough to scrap together a wooden swarm trap, you can use a cardboard box. Just find one the appropriate size. Cover it with plastic if you like, or not. Or, coat the outside with beeswax if you have some extra laying around. No need to paint. If you want to get fancy cut a couple of pieces of 1" x whatever and attache to the ends of the box, inside, for a frame rest.

As for an attractant, I have not tried this, but in my collection of old antique bee hunting boxes I found some bottles of anise oil- I guess that was used as bait for hunting bees back in the day. Might work as a swarm lure as well. I'll have to try that myself sometime and see if it works.

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2008, 03:25:19 PM »
I wouldn't use anise oil because it is the best attractant for  raccoons.  I have been useing it in my 16 yr old ADC business for a species specific bait.  Oh it also is one of the best lures for bears

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Re: building swarm traps
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2008, 03:52:14 PM »
I'm a carpenter and joiner.  But, I don't make my swarm traps.  I use the styrofoam boxes that tropical fish are shipped in to pet stores.  Pop in a hole.  Lay in a few frames and presto!
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