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Author Topic: Wiring large frames and heating support wires to embed them  (Read 1139 times)
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« on: February 18, 2008, 08:04:32 AM »

Long time no visit....

Anyway, I'm UK based and run 14 x 12 hives (jumbo British nationals). Because of the size of frames, they need additional support via horizontal wires.

The largest supplier in the UK offer a transformer system, which allows you to heat the wire (to embed it into the wax) by touching a probe at either end. Does anyone have eny experience about the level of current needed to undertake such a thing? The suppliers price is expensive and I can't think its that hard - but not sure how large the transformer current should be.


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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 08:33:04 AM »

I am not sure of the amp rating (maybe 4 amps)?  but the transformer is 12volts.

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 09:17:45 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 10:49:35 PM »

I've made several of them over the years, no longer use one because I'v gone foundationless.

Buy a small 12 v transformer or rip one out of an old radio or whatever.  Attach the wire from outlet side to each end of a top bar (the large part not the rest end), a small bit of metal bent in an L shape and tacked to the wood works great.  It should look something like this /-----/-----/-----/ where the slash markes are the L shaped brackets and the dashes are the top bar.   Place a monentary switch in line on one wire.  Place the embedder on the wire (the brackets help keep the wire in place and evenally distribute the pressure) and push the switch.  The wire will then melt into the wax as long as the switch is depressed.  Easy does it, it's very easy to cut your wax into strips.

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2008, 07:07:51 PM »

I bought mine from Walter T. Kelly.  I'm not sure of the specs.  But people seem to use most anything, even just an old 120 volt iron in the middle of a 120 volt circuit.  (I'm not that brave but it apparently works fine).  It's the amperage that has to be high enough that you don't burn it out.  The two most popular sources seem to be car battery chargers and old electric train transformers.  I think the old electric train transformers are worth too much money to waste on such ventures.  Smiley

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