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« on: February 13, 2008, 03:39:57 PM »

I just received the following email:

"Hi,
 My name is James and I want to know if you carry or ca order 200 pails of honey to be picked up from your location.
Please let me know the total cost for all 200 pails so I will forward my credit card information to you for full payment processing prior to pick-up by my freight forwarder.
 Hope to read from you as soon as you have a quote for me .

James."

Nobody wants 200 pails of honey.  that is 1000 gallons of honey.  Anyone requesting 1000 gallons of honey would most likely buy a truck load of drums vice pails.  I thought I would just throw this out there for folks to ponder.

I am not responding to this person at all.  They are phishing for something.  I am not sure for what, it is possible to be like the scams from ebay or maybe they just want to sell my info on the internet..  Who knows. 



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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 03:53:37 PM »

and these days, it would make more sense to make money transfers through something like paypal.  who would send out credit card info to someone they contacted on the 'net?  why would he specify pails and not pounds, or as you say, gallons.

does sound strange.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2008, 03:53:49 PM »

Sounds phoney to me.  Are you advertised somewhere that they would know you are a beek?
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2008, 04:10:19 PM »

If theres a way to contact him by another computer, say work or library tell him you only deal in cash! You'll supply the first pail for him to taste for cash pick-up only. Maybe he's just an uninformed buyer thinking a pail is a bottle. How did he find you? Website? It almost sounds too unsophisticated to be a scam.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2008, 06:59:27 PM »

sounds like a kid playing a prank to me rolleyes
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 08:12:42 PM »

It's definitely a scam, these scam artists are trying every angle they can.  I got one addressed to me as a Pilates instructor, from some bozo in Italy who supposedly was going to be here for a month and wanted lessons, he wanted me to send him my fee info and he'd forward me a bank order (no doubt for way more than what I asked for, then he'd ask me to refund him the difference - yea, right).  They work all the angles they can, the scumbags!
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2008, 08:22:03 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2008, 09:12:45 PM »

Do you have 1,000 gallons of honey to sell, can you get it, do you accept credit cards for payment?   If you don't accept c.c., advise him to please send you a cashires check for the amount you want for the honey.   Ask him if barrels would be alright, if not go buy some pails.  When you recieve the check call the bank to see if there is suffiecient funds in that account.  A cashiers check can't be canseled,  either way you get the money guaranteed before he gets there to collect the honey.  If he is playing games, you will know it before you order, or sell the honey.  I wouldn't pass up a sale when I was guranteed with money in hand.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2008, 09:23:19 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2008, 09:29:39 PM »

BMAC and others,

I'm a cop and I'll tell you to be very careful.  One possible scam would be to send you a "normal" looking check to pay for the honey.  The check will be for more than you're asking for the honey.  He'll contact you and say, "my secretary screwed up, just cash the check, keep an extra hundred for your trouble and send me the remaining money.  The problem comes when the bank gives you the money, you send the extra back and then low and behold the bank finally figures out the check is bogus.  The banks really need to get it together.  I've seen this done numerous times and most of the time it's an ederly person who is the victim.  It just sick, but I'm pretty cynical after years of dealing with sick people.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2008, 09:31:29 PM »

one other thing.  My cynical side kicked in again.  Be careful of cashier checks and money orders, I've seen some pretty decent frauds made on a computer.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 09:38:29 PM »

If I had that much honey and some one wanted it. The person could come to my house or agree to meat me at a location and have Washington with him.

The only money order I deal with is U.S. postal M.O.'s
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 09:58:58 PM »

one other thing.  My cynical side kicked in again.  Be careful of cashier checks and money orders, I've seen some pretty decent frauds made on a computer.

Being a retired cop, I must concure.  If ever sent money by check never draw on it until sufficient time has elapsed for it to clear--for international banking that can be over 2 weeks--rule of thumb give it 3 weeks.  When something looks good it is probably fishy, then I say; if in doubt don't.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 11:48:47 PM »


So what do you think of the following? Is it a scam? Notice it is not addressed to anyone. I have also heard that the IRS does not do correspondence through E-mail. This is just someone seeking information.

Here it is in it's entirety;

A Secure Way to Receive Your Tax Refunds

After the last annual calculations of your fiscal activity we have determined that
you are eligible to receive a tax refund of $873.20.
Please submit the tax refund request and allow us 3-9 days in order to
process it.

A refund can be delayed for a variety of reasons.
For example submitting invalid records or applying after the deadline.

To access the form for your tax refund, please click here


Note: For security reasons, we will record your ip-address, the date and time.
Deliberate wrong inputs are criminally pursued and indicated.


Regards,
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Copyright 2008, Internal Revenue Service U.S.A. All rights reserved.


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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2008, 01:17:19 AM »

I read many of these at work, wherre they pay me to, they amuse me.

If you said yes, what would have happened is you would have ended up giving him your bank details, your address and dob. Then you would have given your credit card date and expiry so he could "pay money into it" then one morning you wake up broke and with a twin in Romania or Nairobi.

If you were really stupid, you would have been conned into paying "governemnt fees and duties" before hand.

"Honey" can also be, computers, tles, machinery, anything that you are interested in. Your email addy comes from forum sites and groups. If your email address is public and associated with any organisation, company, hobby, work you name it, you will one day get these emails.

The end result is the same.



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So what do you think of the following? Is it a scam? Notice it is not addressed to anyone. I have also heard that the IRS does not do correspondence through E-mail. This is just someone seeking information.

Here it is in it's entirety;

A Secure Way to Receive Your Tax Refunds

After the last annual calculations of your fiscal activity we have determined that
you are eligible to receive a tax refund of $873.20.
Please submit the tax refund request and allow us 3-9 days in order to
process it.

A refund can be delayed for a variety of reasons.
For example submitting invalid records or applying after the deadline.

To access the form for your tax refund, please click here


Note: For security reasons, we will record your ip-address, the date and time.
Deliberate wrong inputs are criminally pursued and indicated.


Regards,
Internal Revenue Service



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Jerry, there's a warning about this very e-mail scam on my online banking page.  Here's the link to the IRS page about it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2008, 08:58:40 AM »

Oh dear, wouldn't it be so nice to live in a world of trust.  Everywhere you go there is untrusted stuff, everywhere.  I think that I will just stay in my little world of trusty stuff, I have high filtering on my computer and even alot of stuff in my e-mails go to junk e-mail folder, stuff that probably shouldn't, but my security level is fairly high.  It is easier to check junk e-mails than to get crap come into my home.  Oh, those days when life was simple.  Have a beautiful and awesome day, love our life, on this special place, called Earth.  Cindi
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2008, 08:59:33 AM »

Sounds phoney to me.  Are you advertised somewhere that they would know you are a beek?

It come thru the email address from my Beek website.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2008, 09:02:40 AM »

BMAC and others,

I'm a cop and I'll tell you to be very careful.  One possible scam would be to send you a "normal" looking check to pay for the honey.  The check will be for more than you're asking for the honey.  He'll contact you and say, "my secretary screwed up, just cash the check, keep an extra hundred for your trouble and send me the remaining money.  The problem comes when the bank gives you the money, you send the extra back and then low and behold the bank finally figures out the check is bogus.  The banks really need to get it together.  I've seen this done numerous times and most of the time it's an ederly person who is the victim.  It just sick, but I'm pretty cynical after years of dealing with sick people.

Bingo....  This is the specific scam that came to my mind.
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2008, 09:05:22 AM »

one other thing.  My cynical side kicked in again.  Be careful of cashier checks and money orders, I've seen some pretty decent frauds made on a computer.

Outstanding frauds that will not haunt you until approx 15 days after you deposit the check.  We accept cash......  The universal payment form.
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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2008, 09:22:37 AM »

What I can't figure out is why all these con artists are not being put in prison instead of just continuing their fraud.  I'm still getting some of the same fraud scams I was getting eight years or so ago, so they obviously are still in business.
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2008, 09:42:20 AM »

What I can't figure out is why all these con artists are not being put in prison instead of just continuing their fraud.  I'm still getting some of the same fraud scams I was getting eight years or so ago, so they obviously are still in business.

Many of them aren't here in the US, so they're not so easy to catch.  Plus they keep using the same schemes over and over because unfortunately there's still some poor sucker out there who will fall for it.  Doesn't cost them a cent to send the e-mails, anything in return is money in their pockets.
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2008, 09:48:42 AM »

What I can't figure out is why all these con artists are not being put in prison instead of just continuing their fraud.  I'm still getting some of the same fraud scams I was getting eight years or so ago, so they obviously are still in business.

Ditto Reinbeu- about 85% originate in Nigeria, many others from Antigua. Caution is always needed. Cash and pickup only. No exchange of info.
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2008, 10:43:41 AM »

What I can't figure out is why all these con artists are not being put in prison instead of just continuing their fraud.  I'm still getting some of the same fraud scams I was getting eight years or so ago, so they obviously are still in business.

Ditto Reinbeu- about 85% originate in Nigeria, many others from Antigua. Caution is always needed. Cash and pickup only. No exchange of info.

Also some of the scammers are bouncing their emails accross multiple servers with the intent of losing the orginal server info they are being sent from.  Nigeria I believe is the main culprit.
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2008, 11:10:27 AM »

I saw an article recently about a village in Romania that is now a boom town, new homes and businesses going up like crazy, and they have almost 100 percent unemployment. People that were living in shacks 3 years ago now have gated estates and new German and Italian cars. Apparently these scams work.
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2008, 09:40:45 PM »

any time I buy anything other then in person ,  I use my credet card ,, but I go on line and get a one time use number ... most card co. have them so make use of the defence the card gives you .. 
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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2008, 12:50:39 PM »

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Also some of the scammers are bouncing their emails accross multiple servers with the intent of losing the orginal server info they are being sent from.  Nigeria I believe is the main culprit.

Yes that is correct.  I had someone try to pull that on me.  I actually hacked into the mailbox and found that he was doing this to about 200 other people.  I printed out every single email he had (thousands of pages) and turned them over to the FBI.  The couldn't do anything because they were overseas.  I was able to trace the IP address that the emails were going out from.  Nigeria was the location.  I sent emails to every single person in the account and let them know there was a fraud attempt on them and to not correspond to  with that account (some wrote back with a thanks for the warning).  A couple of weeks after I got into that account (I also changed the password to it) I got an email from the same guy, with a new address, trying to pull the same scam.  The funny part about that is I had emailed him prior to this and told him I knew what he was doing.  He still tried to scam me **Shakes head**.  Now the part that I didn't understand was the FBI said they couldn't do anything because it was offshore, but the scammer was having the victims Western Union the money to some place in California.  I would think that this would allow the case to be investigated.  Apparently not.
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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2008, 03:08:27 PM »

http://www.geocities.com/scamjokepage/

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