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Offline GSF

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I can see this happening here. The gov't of Venezuela takes control of everything in the country - for the good of the people of course. Then the shelves are bare. Next there's stampedes and riots at the markets when they actually get something in. In this video you'll see the answer - more control of the people - biometrics. They fingerprint you when you buy food. Our gov't has already talked about an additional tax on those who grow gardens.




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>Our gov't has already talked about an additional tax on those who grow gardens.

In WWII we encouraged people to grow gardens, so of course, it makes sense to punish people for it now...  we abandoned everything else we believed in then...
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I can see this happening here. The gov't of Venezuela takes control of everything in the country - for the good of the people of course. Then the shelves are bare. Next there's stampedes and riots at the markets when they actually get something in. In this video you'll see the answer - more control of the people - biometrics. They fingerprint you when you buy food.

It's a finger print scanner to deter criminals from stealing the Venezuelan equivalent of food from food stamps and selling it on. As a response to welfare fraud it's out there but it is by no means Venezuela taking control of everything in the country. As the story says private grocers aren't part of the program so if you don't get food stamps or find it an unacceptable invasion of privacy you buy your food somewhere else.

Our gov't has already talked about an additional tax on those who grow gardens.
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As the story says private grocers aren't part of the program so if you don't get food stamps or find it an unacceptable invasion of privacy you buy your food somewhere else.

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As a response to welfare fraud it's out there but it is by no means Venezuela taking control of everything in the country.

yeah, and that sounds good coming out of your mouth BUT  you realize that most can't afford those "private" stores?  as in the old USSR, the good stuff is reserved for those who run things, and the visitors they want to impress..  after all, they are important and need good stuff. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/30/venezuela-food-company-suspends-production_n_5242688.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/venezuela-rationing_n_5072160.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20150206/lt-venezuela-shortages/?utm_hp_ref=world&ir=world

the last is more recent, but i had to laugh at the description of Venezuela as socialist.  i guess because there are a few private thing that the government has not overtaken, they feel comfortable with this.  Venezuela is a communist/totalitarian country.  if there is anything that is private, it is only for show to the west.

hope you like the source. 

.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

 Alexis de Tocqueville

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In WWII we encouraged people to grow gardens, so of course, it makes sense to punish people for it now...  we abandoned everything else we believed in then...

The case of Wickard v. Filburn comes to mind here. How can somebody be fined for growing too much wheat to eat at his own kitchen table? How does interstate commerce apply here? Bottom line... The government wants to control everything. I keep asking myself how 100 senators, 435 congressman and women, and POTUS can't possibly think that they have more knowledge that 130,000,000 Americans.

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Because they think they have the big picture, thus they see what is best for us.  take a look at someone like McCain.  who is more arrogant than he?  He's been there since the creation of earth and there is no one to blame but the people who keep voting him back into office.

Venezuela is an excellent example for us to look at though.  the language of their leaders as the country was taken over  is much the same as the language of our own left, including our president.  Venezuela is a country that could be very wealthy, but the leadership has systematically taken over private business and industry, and destroyed them.  They did not take them with the idea of destroying them.  they took them because they believe they could administrate those things and make it all fair.   

whenever you hear the words fair, or economic justice, you are listening to someone who believes that the government should be the arbiter of both fairness and economic justice. 

We have one thing that saves us...so far.  we have a robust middle class in which most economic power,   and voting power still reside.  it is very easy to destroy a middle class though.  we see that it is already being done.  1st take the bottom part of the middle class and make them dependent on government.  offer programs, rebates, free stuff, and you have them.  then take the top of the middle class and reclassify them as the rich.  tax the crap out of them.  some will learn to play the game.  others will find it easier to join the lower middle class and just take the stuff.

almost every program out of this admin, fits the above.  they are directed at the destruction of the middle class, which includes small business.
.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

 Alexis de Tocqueville

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whenever you hear the words fair, or economic justice, you are listening to someone who believes that the government should be the arbiter of both fairness and economic justice. 


Only the individual freedom to make personal decisions about how best to use personal resources achieves both fairness and economic justice.

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This was being discussed largely by the dems about the same time they were discussing an annual tax on a herd of cows to the tune of about $1500. Why? Because they pass gas and it makes the world warm up.

Don't think for a minute I blame it all on the dems either. Plenty of blame to go 'round.

That's my answer to who/why.

Doesn't this kind of thing concern you? All we see are shadows on the wall.
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