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« on: September 09, 2007, 09:36:40 PM »

  Can anyone tell me where I can get fully drawn plastic foundation?
I found "honeysupercell" but thats kinda expensive even with a 25cent markdown. When I do a search for PermaComb I go to Australia. I'm waiting for a response from "BeeTek Plastic"as to where and if they have a dealer in the US. Currently, Im using "EZ Frames" put out by Dadants but it seems the bees take a long time to build these up. Ive read the forums here about using permacomb but dont remember a tip on where I can get it.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2007, 09:49:50 PM »

Look for plasticell
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2007, 09:53:38 PM »

Get permacomb from John Seets
"Seets, John F." <john.seets@ngc.com>

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 01:15:22 AM »

John Seets is the guy to contact, but I have been waiting for a new shipment since April.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2007, 06:27:42 AM »

john.seets@ngc.com

John Seets, National/International Distributor
PermaComb Systems
2203 Belleview Rd.
Catonsville, MD. 21228
410-765-6361
800-915-4469

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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2007, 10:15:46 PM »

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Thanx you guys but Seets wont have any till later in the fall. I guess thats ok though. He put me on his "Recall List". I guess I wont need it till spring though anyways. On a positive note, I guess this means its pretty popular stuff!
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 08:00:38 AM »

Keep in mind:

Honey Super Cell is 4.9mm cell size and 9 1/4 deep (goes in 9 5/8" deep boxes)

PermaComb is 5.1mm cell size and is 6" deep (1/4 too short in theory to go in a medium box).

So if you want to put them in deep boxes, you'll need the Honey Super Cell.

If you want to put them in medium boxes you'll need either the PermaComb or cut down the Honey Super Cell.

If you want small cell (4.9mm) you'll need to either use the Honey Super Cell or wax dip the PermaComb.  I heat the PermaComb to 200F and dip it in 212F beeswax and shake off the excess.

The Honey Super Cell has built in "Hoffman" spacers on the "frame".  The PermaComb comes with plastic "Stoller" spacers that you put on the frame rests.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 09:10:24 AM »

PermaComb is 5.1mm cell size and is 6" deep (1/4 too short in theory to go in a medium box).

Why did they make it 1/4 too short? Any specific purpose? 
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2007, 10:07:54 PM »

>Why did they make it 1/4 too short? Any specific purpose?

They thought since they can't rebuild it the bees needed somewhere to build drone comb.  And that's exactly what they do with that space.
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