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« on: September 07, 2007, 09:59:57 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/06/science/06cnd-bees.html?ex=1346731200&en=7b7e2c501c530aae&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Very interesting article on CCD and what they think is causing it.
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 10:02:15 AM »

Daggone Aussies.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 10:11:51 AM »

Jeffery Pettis who is quoted in the article (dept of Ag.) has spoken at our association meetings. One point he has mentioned that is not quoted here - possibly elaborated in the journal Science - is that there is also evidence that another significant factor contributing heavily to vulnerability is reduced immunity from the varroa mite which does not exist in Australia.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 02:41:28 PM »

Here is one....

http://www.madison.com/tct/news/222127

And check it out;

"IAPV also has not been found in "feral" bee colonies in the wild, said co-author Diana Cox-Foster of Penn State."
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 09:03:42 PM »

Wonder why the feral bees don't get it?  Could it be genetics?  Smaller cells?  Less Varroa mites?  Hardier stock?  Better immune systems?

We didn't have enough diseases, we had to import some more...
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2007, 03:10:31 PM »

MB is it that they don't get it, or that none has been found?
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 08:43:02 PM »

> Wonder why the feral bees don't get it?

No one's looked for CCD in feral colonies!

Claiming that "feral bees" don't get CCD is almost as disingenuous
as continuing the claims made that "organic" beekeepers have
not reported CCD.

An absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence.


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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2007, 02:56:03 AM »

No one's looked for CCD in feral colonies!

I find it funny that it is mentioned this way........ "IAPV also has not been found in "feral" bee colonies in the wild, said co-author Diana Cox-Foster of Penn State."

Why bother to say it at all if they haven't looked, or why not just say they haven't looked?
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2007, 11:13:29 AM »

>Claiming that "feral bees" don't get CCD is almost as disingenuous
as continuing the claims made that "organic" beekeepers have
not reported CCD.

I've made no claims about any relationship at all concerning CCD, organic beekeeping and feral bees.  I'm merely asking questions in response to the quote:

"IAPV also has not been found in "feral" bee colonies in the wild, said co-author Diana Cox-Foster of Penn State."

Perhaps you should ask her why she said that.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2007, 11:20:00 AM »

An absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence.

That is correct. We all know there are wild elephants in Kansas even though there has been no evidence found to support these claims.
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2007, 02:06:28 PM »

>We all know there are wild elephants in Kansas even though there has been no evidence found to support these claims.

Actually there are a lot of fossilized elephant skeletons in Kansas...
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2007, 04:54:58 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2007, 03:43:57 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2007, 08:16:47 AM »

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