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Your post was extremely well done and brings a lot of replying to:
I doubt anyone can deny the fact our planet was a bubbling mass of ooze in the beginning - although theologically thinking EARTH was made in a blink, along with all that there is SAYITH THE LORD in your Friendly Neighborhood Christian Bible. Both sound relatively SIMILAR in a strange way.
Science says that (LIKELY) all that there is NOW came from something smaller than NOTHING - and ALTHOUGH the beginning years must have be chaotic to those sitting home in some OTHER UNIVERSE sitting back and watching on a hi-def PAYPERVIEW EVENT - how dare we think we are either the The Smartest Cookies in the Universe, or accept that when GOD CREATED ALL THAT THERE IS "INCLUDED LIVE ELSEWHERE IN THE UNIVRSE" And maybe it HIS intention to keep us SOOOOOOO far away from each other, we'd have to be far superior to anything we can even hope for.
Imagine in a spaceship from another planet, they can pull a FULL STOP after being chased at 1500MPH - That would be thousands, if not millions of G FORCE and we'd be turned to JELLY - I tend to think that IF was are currently VISITED, then they live in the deepest parts of the oceans, only rarely seen by ships - but they are named USOs (Unidentified Submerged Object) and if they are deep into the ocean, I'm assuming they are part of our planet and MAY HAVE BEEN for a very long time.
Again, why do we think we are the best and only "top of the food chain" people. I've said before, toss either of us in a cage with a lion, we find out short we are PREY and shortly going to be DEAD and we can't do a thing about be it's next meal excet INTERVEEN with technoloy - on our own, we are truly primative without technology.
Some people now believe that EARTH was a planet FILLED WITH CREATURES "Except MAN" and we were introduced to this planet through PANIC STRICKEN MARS ALERTS about DOOMS DAY from GREEN HOUSE EFFECTS, or GLOBAL WARMING. You see, I believe that ALL THINGS CYCLE, from our heartbeat, to groves in a road, to the change of Seasons, and especially any version of the RADIO SPECTRUM.
The old Soviet Union transmitted a propaganda message at 60 Hertz Signal (this is the Frequency of you home HOUSE CURRENT) they we trying to use EVERY ELECTRICALLY WIRED HOME IN THE US - the reasoning?. to directly send LOCALIZED RADIOWAVES (sent to you by your friendly Electric company) your home will be a LOW WAVE RADIO TRANSMITTER - we do not HEAR frequencies anywhere near 60htz - that is a very low-band radio frequency, far below in tone from what our ear needs to vibrate.
Many "In the middle people" mostly faith believing Christians who are smart enough to say, God created all this, from richness to poorness, for sicker and in health - I think BOTH the wonders and tragedies we see in live, man STILL can always choose long term piece or endless war with each other. Notice GOD doesn't involve himself in MAN'S PATH, that is what FREE WILL is for - humans have the ability to DECIDE, and making choices BOTH GOOD AND BAD are what CREATS the people we are. Toss in a bunch of good ENVIRONMENT and a descent set of MORALS - I can't expect God to deal with MAN DECISIONS - it is the way he CHOSE IT TO BE.
But about the FLOOD :roll: I always think of THE BIBLE a ONE of MAN'S MANY OWNER'S MANUALS. There are so many beliefs that it truly astounds me that some people understand ALL THE WORLDS CONFLICTS and the ramifications especially today - ugh. I'm just seeing the army of tomorrow being a DRAFT ARMED FORCES - I pity that to ever happen, recruit numbers are horrifically low compared to great years. All things man does is on FREE CHOICE - there is ALWAYS at least two Choices and it is your own beliefs that flip the good thing or bad thing buttons.
Free Choice is believed to be first felt in 5th graders (10 year olds) had AWARENESS that THEY we individual Humans. The thrill of it wears off (at least us Americans - who have it great, compared to MOST of the World) so through your teens, you sort do things of interest, party or do crazy things, and then one sad day you find out your good friend died in a horrific car accident caused by him and not being sober at the time. Here you are 16, your friend who's a year or two older has NOT lived through the loss of a friend to unnecessary fatalities - you all of a sudden finding out that HUMANS are made out of FLESH AND BONES and of course CONCIOUSNESS.
I think of many parts of the Bible written in PARABLE - they are true stories showing the consequences of MANKIND over and over - I honestly wish those beings who seeded Humans from a dying Mars - would have eventually let us in on the plan. Are we a Species NOT OF THIS EARTH, did OUR "PLANTING" HERE on EARTH spark the original stories of Genesis?
I fully agree that there was a FLOOD that covered the Planet, but I think it happened LONG BEFORE walking creatures inhabited Earth. If we are indeed the Ancestors of Martians and not those of Apes, I'd feel a bit better - lol.
So yes on the flood, I'm assuming all I've read in Genesis and I put a lay-man's spin on trying to decipher EXACTLY what the writer was trying to communicate. Give the ages of the oldest surviving cultures, man has been around 200,000 years, but hadn't moved or explored much (basically breaking away from the home village) now Recently due to continuing DIGS in the VALLEY OF THE KINGS, some the great graves and monuments in Egypt are likely as old as 15,000 years old now that isn't saying that they have have been torn down in wars and at least patched back up. But the key to the LAST ICE AGE is the real interesting part. If the Pyramids were around 13,000 or more years, it would fully PROVE an ice age. Some scientists think the salt water markings and abrasions to the lime stone structures. If the ICE AGE happen BEFORE the pyramids, then some flood occurred and went to the height of about 12ft at the 3 pyramids. The water it is assumed would have been there nearly 4 years to do the corrosion that occurred on the edges, corners, steps and pillars ALL HAD water SANDING - and considering the sanding away that was done, the water must have had some serious flow around the pyramids.
I swear that someday we'll understand it all - hopefully by God's intervention and not total destruction from a planet filled with war. I'll fill you in on the massive production in Lancaster, PA called NOAH the MUSCIAL - I'll tell you about it in Ventrilo - it was educational and mind blowing, including a 180 degree, 3 story high stage filled with live and animated animals everywhere - you felt as if you were in the ARK itself. Man was it great!
I thought I'd reply here - I'm really glad you chose to join the forum, I know you will enjoy the forums mentioned, as well as any other you feel like posting in :)
My last thought, Imagine God gave Literally Viles with the sprems and eggs of every creature - imagine implanting four baby sheeps inside a cow uteris - interesting. Creature types and labelling systems add hundreds of new plant or living creature. We have found EVERYTHING yet, there are creatures in the Oeans (way down there by the UFOs) that we may NEVER find. God will always give you what you need if you believe - notice I said NEED not WANT - WANTS are part of that the FREE CHOICE part of the body - by the way, IT IS THE FLESH that always argues with the CONCIOUS BEING - you are always fighting INNER DEMONS when stray or bad thoughts fester in your mind. I often think the ONLY thing from a person PURE EVIL AT HEART - a souless person, and a person of bountiful giving and blessing - is there use of FREE CHOICE.
I guess what it turns out to be is IN YOUR HEART and more so CERTAIN in your mind there IS A GOD (and freely to choose which religion you choose. But when your mind BELIEVES without a doubt that a book you follow is the RIGHT CHOICE FOR YOU - then as long as it is a faith of good intention, no bombing and destroying - always enlish positive energy into your life: do stupid little things that MAKE someone's day, and they never have to be much - asking a coworker for lunch to a buffet that only costs $8 could net you a friend for life, AND expand you people pool - nothing wrong with a cellphone book with a bunch of numbers, that should mean you have lots of family and friends :)
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