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HUMOR IS A FUNNY THING / Northern Boy - Southern Girl:
« Last post by iddee on January 23, 2015, 05:14:36 PM »
Northern Boy - Southern Girl:

The Liberal Northerner's son graduated from college and was offered a good job, but it was in the Deep South.

Dad, a liberal Democrat, was worried about his son going off to such a strange land and he warned him to avoid entanglements with southern women.

"They can't cook the kind of food we northerners eat, they won't keep the house clean, they don't like sex, and if you marry one, she'll call you a darn Yankee the rest of your life. "

After a few months, the son telephoned Dad and told him he had just met a wonderful Southern girl, and thought he was in love with her.

Dad repeated his warnings about Southern women and their shortcomings.

After another couple of months, the son called Dad and told him he and his Southern girl were getting married. Dad just moaned and groaned and repeated his warnings.

Two more months go by and son telephones Dad......"Dad, you were wrong. My wife is a great cook, keeps the house neat as a pin, and she absolutely loves sex."

Dad responded, "Well, what about the fourth thing -- her calling you a darn Yankee?"

"Oh, we reached an agreement on that.  She won't call me a darn Yankee, and I won't call her the N word.

First of all, let me say I haven't fed my bees anything in 3 years.  I just make sure they have plenty of their own produce left on the hive in the fall and I hold a super or two of extra frames back in the freezer in case a hive or two looks short in late winter or early spring.  Or if I have any extra bottled honey left in Feb or March, I may open feed it back to the girls on days where temps are in 60 or higher.

That being said, back when I did feed, I didn't get hung up on exact measurements.  They will take about whatever mixture you put together, if there isn't enough for them to forage in nature.  Yes, you want the feeding syrup to be a little thicker in the fall so they can fan the moisture out of it quicker and not have too much hive humidity going into winter, but other than knowing it should be thicker when feeding to develop winter stores, I don't see why your measurements need to be so precise.  You are making too much work for your self.

I am a lazy beekeeper (ala Michael Bush's model) and I think my hives are the better for it.
GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Starting Out - Package vs Nuc
« Last post by L Daxon on January 23, 2015, 04:33:58 PM »
I teach our beginning beekeep class and when students ask me what they should start out with, a package or a nuc? I suggest they try one of each.  You learn different skills with a package that you don't get with a nuc (like hiving a swarm, releasing a queen, etc.)  When you have the two different setups starting out, you get to compare how they build up and realize that 3-5 lbs of bees will behave differently in different circumstances   (i.e. when placed on drawn comb vs foundation, etc).

There is no foolproof way to start out. 
TOP BAR HIVES - WARRE HIVES - LONG HIVES / Re: Source for 1 3/8" top bars
« Last post by Michael Bush on January 23, 2015, 04:27:24 PM »
My first set I ripped with my skill saw (didn't have a table saw at the time).  I made half 1 1/4" for the brood and the other half I made from 1 by 2's which were 1 1/2".  I left them 1 1/2" for the honey.  If I had a table saw at the time I might have made them all 1 1/4" and then made a lot of 1/4" spacers.
>Are there not rules in this forum against attacking fellow members, hateful comments, and keeping things civil?  I applaud such rules, because it's pretty clear without them some beeks would get attacked all the time!  Do rules for civil behavior really diminish the content of this forum?

And if I don't like the rules I can join a different forum or start my own.  There are some beekeeping lists that moderate everything and will delete half of your posts.  You often appear to be unable to defend your position because the moderator simply won't let you express it.  So what do you do?  I don't go there...

I can't start my own government and I can't go to a different one without moving to another country.  What someone can do on their privately owned forum is their business.  What the government does, becomes everyone's business and there is nothing we can do about it.
ADMINISTRATION FORUM / Re: New Posts not working
« Last post by Robo on January 23, 2015, 04:23:32 PM »
Phill,  That is correct,  it would appear on either link when unread, but once you viewed it, it would be no longer considered "new" or "unread".

Personally I usually use New Posts link  and will occasionally check the Replies to see if something was overlooked.
ADMINISTRATION FORUM / Re: New Posts not working
« Last post by Michael Bush on January 23, 2015, 04:21:29 PM »
Yesterday it still did not work unless I use a saved favorite to the "new posts".  The saved favorite works, though, so that's what I'll do.
« Last post by L Daxon on January 23, 2015, 04:20:10 PM »
That's what this site is for:  to share our boo boos so others don't make the same mistakes.  But regardless, we all seem capable of making new mistakes on our own.

I usually make the same mistake several times, just to make sure it was really a mistake.  I am also a slow learner :oops:
ADMINISTRATION FORUM / Re: New Posts not working
« Last post by phill on January 23, 2015, 04:19:06 PM »
Thanks, Robo. I get that part, I think.

Just now, I hit "New Posts" and saw-- among other things-- this note from you. Then I hit "Replies" and there was nothing. Is that because the server recognizes that I've already seen your note? If so, I'm all set.
GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: water content of honey
« Last post by L Daxon on January 23, 2015, 04:14:40 PM »
The water content of honey can range from as low as 14% to as high as 21% and still be correct.  It depends on the nectar source.  Different nectar sources will produce a different appropriate moisture content, according to what I have read.  Just like different nectar sources will granulate at a different rate.

That being said, if the honey is capped, I usually consider it OK, though I have seen pictures of capped honey that has fermented (so the girls must have capped it with too high a moisture content.)

I also know in late summer you can have perfectly good honey in the cells an no cappings cause the flow stopped and there just wasn't enough nectar coming in to cause them to make enough wax to cap what was already in the cells.

If I have a frame of uncapped nectar/honey that I know it has been in the hive for 4 weeks or more, I turn the frame upside down and if any nectar/moisture shakes out, I know for sure the nectar hasn't  cured enough.  If no moisture comes it, I then check the viscosity with a toothpick and if it looks firm enough, I go ahead and harvest it.  That has been my approach for 10 years, but I did just get a refractor for Christmas, but not sure how much I will use it.

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