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REQUEENING & RAISING NEW QUEENS / Re: Cell Punch
« Last post by Acebird on March 27, 2017, 08:27:40 AM »
If the punch is so large that you pick up multiple larvae then I don't see why you can't skip the wax ring and just place the punched out comb in the JZBZ cup.  SC, why do you think the tubing wouldn't work especially if you are heating it?
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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: Winter Pack Down
« Last post by Beenic on March 27, 2017, 08:27:21 AM »
Thanks for the info Anderson Honey. Seems like I'm looking for a needle in a haystack. I was hoping the answer would be as simple as some clear signs in my hive/s that'd tell me, rather than rely on our unpredictable weather here in Melbourne to give me a sign it's time to pack down. I'm planning on packing down a hive 3 boxes high that currently has bottom box full of nectar & pollen, 2nd box full of mostly brood, pollen, honey & nectar & top box mostly full of honey.
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Winter Bee House
« Last post by Jim 134 on March 27, 2017, 07:20:07 AM »
If you would like to know a little bit more about AZ hives.. these hives been around for about a hundred and forty years.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1608057116103205/

  Is hive designed to stay inside all year round on a bee house . Remember one thing this is a different way to keep honey bees as compared to langstroth.

http://www.slovenianbeekeeping.com/

            BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :smile:
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Winter Bee House
« Last post by Bush_84 on March 27, 2017, 04:05:21 AM »
I've never heard of that before. However is it really necessary in your climate?  Would seem to me that down south you wouldn't need to keep them warm. The goal is for me to keep them 35-45 f in the winter, although they honestly probably stay on the low end of that range. Now that it's warming up a bit they are back on their stand until November/December.
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Split Question
« Last post by Bush_84 on March 27, 2017, 04:02:20 AM »
My question still just boils down to the best way to split a nuc without weakening it as I want to raise queens in said nuc.

It is impossible to split without making the (whole) weaker.  You are robbing resources.  It is just a matter of degree.  The weakest split you can make is one that you add a mated queen to and feed.  The strongest split you can make is an even divide and add a queen to the queenless side.  And then there is everything in between these two extremes.  But the idea of splitting without making the colony before you split weaker is impossible.

Unless I take a two story five frame nuc, remove the weeknight with 2-3 frames and condense the rest into a single story nuc. Strength is not measured in number of frames but quantity of bees per space. If I were even to simply just take one of the boxes away along with the queen you could argue that nothing is drastically lost as the remaining box still has the same quantity of bees as it did before. However if I don't take all the bees away from the second story and cram the rest into a single five frame nuc I am inherently increasing their density and that's what's really important from what I understand of queen rearing. If I am able to leave ink capped brood I improve things even that much more.
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THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: Obahmacare
« Last post by kathyp on March 27, 2017, 12:35:47 AM »
Let me stipulate first that the way we do insurance and cover our medical costs in this country is stupid.  We do it this way because somewhere along the line people became convinced that someone else should pay for health care and that getting insurance through work was a spiffy idea.

Both things are wrong.  both have led to the entitlement mentality we now suffer about medical care.  both have led to fewer choice and higher cost.  Both have removed market forces from insurance purchase and health care coverage.  We have now what we demanded...on steroids, further complicated by state and now federal mandates about what insurance must cover.

How much medical care you get will always be limited by money.  Your money, the insurance companies money, or the government funding.  It is no different that any other thing we pay for.  The question here is choice.  Do you want to turn every choice and every decision over to the government?  Would you rather be able to buy the insurance you want, for what you want, without the government interfering with what and how you purchase it?
Would you be willing to treat medical care as you do car care and pay for regular stuff out of pocket saving insurance for big things?

If the country decides to go with single payer and depending on the style they choose, you will have fewer choices.  An English style will allow for private insurance but it will be very expensive and probably won't take you if you have a preexisting condition.  A Canadian style and you have little to no choice but the government program.  We will be imposing a tremendous cost on the small number of taxpayers relative to the number we will cover and so you can expect, as they have in England, a degradation of facilities and slow updating of equipment with much less availability. 
There's no incentive for docs to go into specialties if income if limited.  You'll have fewer choices there.  Not all hospitals will survive and not all hospitals will be able to deliver the variety of treatments they do now. You can expect fewer choices, longer waits, and travel if you are lucky enough to make it to the head of the line.

Not all of these things will happen right away, but as tech outdates or machines break, choices have to be made between updating/replacing, and seeing patients and giving meds.  And those meds?  Expect fewer choices.   If the cheap drugs don't work, don't expect anything more expensive or experimental.  If pharmaceutical companies have to spend billions bringing drugs to market, but are not paid well by the government, they will not bother with anything the least bit marginal. 

I don't have any doubt we are headed for single payer.  It has been the dream of the left for decades.  Pretty sure it's not because they care about you, so you might want to think about why the love the idea so much....might have something to do with all the other entitlements they love and use in every election to convince the sheep that someone is out to take their "free" stuff from them!!!

hey...population control.  Two birds with one stone   :wink:



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THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: Obahmacare
« Last post by gww on March 27, 2017, 12:07:30 AM »
Kathy
We have a single payer now, it is through those that have things and have insurance.  The ones that have nothing are going to be treated and the ones that have insurance is going to pay more for it so that the insurance and hospitals and such servive.  All those limmits put on treatment happen now but are done by insurance companies.  The only differrence is that in our system, a guy that is unlucky enough to get sick can lose all his stuff due to poor luck.  Plus a guy that could have bought insurance but did not can lose all his stuff but still get treated but not have to pay his fair share untill and if that happens and so the burden is even higher on the guy who is buying insurance.  Every body is worried about the guy who doesn't work getting something for free but they don't worry about the one who does work but and could do what the other people do and have insurance and then it would be a little fairer to the ones proping up the health care system now.  So it is ok to steal health care but not ok to have it if you have no means to get it. 

Every single thing that everyone says is going to happen if we had a single payer happens now through your insurance provider and doctors.  I haven't been to a doctor in proby seven years and if I tried to make an appointment, I might have to wait a month or two before a doctor will see me as a new patient if that doctor is even excepting new patiants.  Then when I am finaly seen and I try to bring up two issues that might be wrong with me. they are going to ask me to come at a differrent time and that I need to only ask about one problim in one visit.

All the stuff every one is afraid of is being done to them now unless you are the cash cow that goes weekly to a doctor.  Then there might be lots of room for you.

Nobody is going to convince me that americans system is so far ahead of all those other places that have universal coverage and our (good?) covearge cost us $5000 per person compared to $2000 per person in the health care system that everyone points to as being too big.
Cheers
gww
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THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: Obahmacare
« Last post by kathyp on March 26, 2017, 11:18:11 PM »
Some things to consider about single payer before you jump off that bridge.

We have around 125 million people paying federal taxes.  There are more that pay things like payroll taxes, but of those others they either get their money back because their income is low, or they get back more than they paid in earned income credit. (tax welfare)

We have well over 300 million in the country.  That population is aging or the part that is expanding tends to be lower-income immigrant or lower income no federal taxpayers.  Middle and upper income have quit having enough children to keep an even population count. 

No country has tried to do single payer on this scale and do it well.  India has universal health care, but it's not worth much if you are outside the big cities.  The next largest country to do it is Germany.  Germany has a really weird system where cost is completely controlled by the government but there are private insurance companies through which you are covered and you have to be wealthy to be allowed to buy insurance outside the government control...I hope I got the basics right.  Maybe we have a German on here who can let me know if I messed that up.
At any rate, I see no way that works here....ever.

England in next.  They have single payer, but the money is allocated to the medical trusts that cover various areas.  In theory, this gives more local control.  Whatever...there is never enough money for much of anything.  If you need an operation and don't live in one of a few major cities, you are going to have to travel for it.  If they are full or the surgeons are busy...too bad.

Example from family.  Older guy diagnosed with primary lung cancer that appears not to have spread.  Spot picked up on xray before Christmas.  No biopsy until after Christmas.  Surgery not scheduled until March.  He goes to hospital in another part of the country for surgery, and as they are about to take him down, the surgery is canceled.  No beds.  Week and 1/2 later.  Repeat.  canceled.  no surgeon.  no bed. 

So here we are months later with what might have been a curable cancer and still no surgery.  That is single payer in the UK.  Triage by age and usefulness.  There is never enough money.  Free to the Brits now means every drippy nose goes to the doc....to the point they run PSAs to tell people to stay home with their colds.....but IT'S FREE AND THEY PROMISED US and so it is abused just as Medicaid is abused in the US. 

So, before you jump on the single payer train, be aware that there are not enough people working to pay for all you want.  If you are old, sick, or otherwise useless to the future of society, you are not worth the dollars.  As Obama said...you might just need to be happy with a pill to keep you comfortable.
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GREETINGS/TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF / Re: Hello all from Tappahannock, VA
« Last post by cao on March 26, 2017, 10:48:53 PM »
Welcome  :happy:
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: First Inspection this Spring
« Last post by cao on March 26, 2017, 10:47:42 PM »
If there are empty cells for the queen to lay than I doubt that they are ready to swarm.  The queen is probably just getting ready to ramp up egg laying(waiting for nectar).  If those empty cells get packed full of nectar and the hive is full of bees then they might swarm. 
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