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 on: September 18, 2014, 05:12:42 AM 
Started by ggleavitt - Last post by sawdstmakr
First of all where are you located? Are you in AHB territory?
Sounds like you did the right thing, the bees will not accept the new queen with their own queen cells in the hive. By removing the all of the emergency cell, you will force them to accept the new queen. The big question is did you get them all.
I would give them a couple of days and then release her.
If you had slid the cage under the hive it would bee easy to release her without going through the hive again.
Before releasing her, look at the bees on the screen. Are they attacking the box or are they calm and just trying to get her cent and feeding her.
If there are no other cells in the hive, they may calm down with just her pheromone.

 on: September 18, 2014, 05:02:27 AM 
Started by GDRankin - Last post by GDRankin
I got a call while Iím loading my truck and about to be on the way to check on a trap-out I set up a while back and to pick up another one that was ready to bring home. The call is from a construction general contractor asking if I do bee removal. I say yeah I help when and where I can, what type of situation do you have?
He says they are clearing some land right next to a subdivision and just bull dozed down a tree with a hive and now they need someone to do something with the bees. My initial response was . . .  is anyone hurt and where are the bees now?

He let me know that the tree was close to some houses and that no people were hurt, but a couple of dogs got hit pretty hard by the bees and were still down. His main concern was the neighborhood, so using enclosed dozers, they pushed the ďbee treeĒ with a bunch of other trees and brush away from the back of the houses and into a pile about 200 yards from the privacy fences of the homes that border the property.

It just so happened that the trap-out job I was  going to check on was within a few miles of these guys, so I offered to stop by and have a look. On the way, all hell broke lose with the weather around here. It slowed traffic to a crawl on my way through down town San Antonio, causing an hour trip to take closer to two hours. The land they were clearing got about an inch of rain and was a mud pit when I arrived.

When I got there a safety officer from the company met me and escorted me around to the house with the two down dogs. One was worse than the other. Both large black lab types and both laid out on a garage floor. The owners, standing around in shock and scared of course, were obviously upset and fearing for the lives of their pets.

I started removing several stingers from around the eyes, ears and mouth of the closest dog and I could tell right away that she was pretty out of it. Even though I was pretty late on the scene, I figured it wouldnít hurt to remove the stingers and it seemed to comfort the owner some. I offered some Benadryl, but he said theyíd been talking with their vet and had already given both dogs a dose.
This dog didnít look too good. Her eyes were not stable and she wasnít moving a muscle. The other one got up and walked around a bit, so I checked him and he seemed to at least be aware of his surrounds.
This was a first for me, (dogs attached) so I wasnít sure what else I could do or offer other than to go see about the bees. I did put a little MelaGel on the stung areas of the first dog that I checked. MelaGel is sting pain reliever I was given by my aunt that was married to my late uncle that was a beek for many years. Itís a topical balm that contains Natural Melaleuca Oil and helps a good deal with stings.
 (any advice anyone wants to offer here would be helpful for us all Iím sure)

So I go out behind the houses to find a few small saplings remaining where they indicated the ďbee treeĒ was before they dozed it down. A few bees were starting to cluster on one of them and another few dozen bees were basically searching for home and going up and down a section of the privacy fence near the small tree where the others were gathering.

A couple hundred yards from there, out in the middle of the cleared field, is a good size brush pile. What looked like 6 or 8 mid size trees, mostly young live oaks and a mesquite or two, as well as some scrub brush that was about 30 feet long and 20 feet across and bunched up really tight. That made it difficult for me to get in among the larger limbs to try to locate a hive of any sort.

There were a few layers of comb laying around, over on one edge of the brush pile, and a piece or two hanging on a limb above them. Plenty of bees were covering the comb on the ground robbing the honey and there was one good size ribbon with a fair amount of salvageable brood. All in all there were about 6 pieces of comb, the longest about 14 Ė 16 inches by 3 Ė 4 inches wide, so Iím guessing it was a fairly small limb they were hived up in. Of course that could have come from only a small section and there may be plenty more buried up in the middle somewhere? The dozer drive was already gone, so there was no one on location that really knew anything more about anything else.

I brought along a cardboard 5 frame nuc, but I didnít have a swarm lure with me, so I decided to frame up as much of the brood as I could salvage and see if that would be enough to draw the bees into.  The bees over by the houses were mostly clustered about head high on a small live oak right around a fork. I figured I got lucky there and took advantage of the fork to place the nuc and tied it off there. There were bees going in to it before I finished tying it to the tree. So that was promising.

These construction guys need to get back to their clearing business asap, but thereís rain in our forecast again tomorrow. Iím hoping that will allow the bees enough time to regroup and hopefully with any luck, they may move into the nuc trap I left for them.
Of course I have no idea what happened to the original hollow the hive was in or if there is even any thing left of it or not. I looked as good as I could in the brush pile (without cutting my way into it) but since I couldnít locate a stream of bees going into it anywhere and it was starting to rain again a little, I decided it wasnít worth investigating at the moment.

I left the nuc there and depending on the weather and maybe any advice received here, I may go back out there tomorrow, or may wait until Friday. The rain chances are less then and it may give the bees more time to regroup.
Iíll take my generator and bee vac when I go, so in case I find them clustered somewhere else, I can at least load up what I can find.

I know itís a tough thing to give advice about without seeing things first hand and also without knowing what Iíll find when I return, but any pointers would be helpful and most appreciated.

Should I even worry about getting into the middle of the brush pile to attempt to locate what may or may not be left of the original hive? They intend to push the entire pile further across the property in a couple of days, so I donít have much time to act on that . . . if at all and if needed?

Or should I just go check the nuc trap in a couple of days and hope for the best? Hopefully the dogs are okay and maybe Iíll be able to rescue a few thousand bees before itís over.

 on: September 18, 2014, 03:36:33 AM 
Started by sutho1973 - Last post by sutho1973
Haha no worries Mick. I'm on Woodstock Giru rd also. We have been here around 18 months and love it. We are trying to be a little bit more self sufficient and having bees and our own honey are the next step for us. As far as swarm traps go what do u recommend as bait? I have a couple with swarm lures that I purchased and just got a bottle of lemon grass oil to try also. I'm constantly saying to my wife " I'm just going to check the swarm traps" and then take a beer or three and dissappear for an hour.


 on: September 18, 2014, 02:49:37 AM 
Started by sutho1973 - Last post by Anybrew2
I better bee careful and start checking the Brands on the swarms I've hived.

 on: September 18, 2014, 02:43:52 AM 
Started by sutho1973 - Last post by amun-ra
Now is the time I have bees down woodstock guru road but all mine are branded so please return them if ya catch em

 on: September 18, 2014, 02:19:53 AM 
Started by ugcheleuce - Last post by ugcheleuce
Hello everyone

Since SHB has officially been spotted in the wild in Europe about two weeks ago (Italy, university bait hive), us beeks at this side of the pond have been brushing up on SHB control methods.

There seems to be a great variety of methods and products out there (often with overlapping names).  Do you know of a summary or introductory definitive list of those methods/products (including e.g. links to videos at each entry that definitely show that particular product)?

It would seem to me a great idea to have such a topic as a sticky (one for varroa, too).  Once I know what's available, I can google for their effectiveness myself, so all that's needed is a list.

One such summary is here although it doesn't link to any pages, and so one is at the mercy of Google to guess correctly which image is the real image of each product.


 on: September 18, 2014, 01:37:58 AM 
Started by capt44 - Last post by LaurieBee
Welcome back, Captain.

 on: September 18, 2014, 01:36:12 AM 
Started by GSF - Last post by LaurieBee
That's funny.

 on: September 18, 2014, 12:08:56 AM 
Started by ggleavitt - Last post by ggleavitt
Have a very hot hive and am in the process of doing a re-queen.  Using a push in wire cage over emerging brood, removed old queen 24 hours before putting new queen in (in retrospect I might not do this again, 3 days later I went through every frame and had to remove 11 emergency queen cells).

Also at day 3 I thought to release the new queen but could not see well through the haze of PO'd bees on my veil to determine if the new queen was being accepted so left her in the large wire cage. Looks like she has around 30 or so attendants that emerged from inside the cage so I think Iím okay for now to leave her as is.  No more honey inside the cage but some pollen and plenty of now empty cells. Didnít see an eggs but Iím old and my eyesight is not so sharp.  The bees on the outside are trying to eat down to the plastic in a few spots but so far the cage is holding (#8 wire, pushed all the way to the bottom of the foundation).

Question is, how long should I feel comfortable leaving her in the push-in cage?  A week or 10 days okay?  I'm not at all incentivized to go back into this hive so want to defer as long as is reasonable to get full acceptance.


 on: September 17, 2014, 11:34:01 PM 
Started by sutho1973 - Last post by Lone
Lots of beeks at Majors Creek so you should be able to nick some of their swarms  Smiley

Here's some info about the local bee club if you're interested


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