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"Are you better off than you were six years ago"
No... The government is still using fear-mongering to promote its agenda. We claim to be fighting terrorism but the only way to do that effectively is to not allow ourselves to be terrorized. I refuse to believe anything that our government says. I saw something that said that the problem with any government system be it democracy, communism or almost anything other than dictatorship is corruption. Well... I would have to say that that is certainly a large part of the problem.
They think they can control something simply by outlawing it...

At least when they tried it with Alcohol they realized it was a failure and they undid their mistake. How long will they beat their heads against the wall with our drug policy?
THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: Greece or more likely grease
« Last post by Eric Bosworth on July 01, 2015, 11:59:18 AM »
Any income tax is theft. The tax codes in the US are blatantly unconstitutional. We either have the right not to incriminate ourselves or we do not and we either have the right to be secure in our persons papers and effects or we do not. Therefore requiring tax returns is unconstitutional. The problem is not revenue. The problem is spending and over regulation. I don't think it matters if you are in the US, Greece or any other country with out of control debt. The problem is spending and over regulation. I can't speak for Greece. I live in the US and I have seen data here. If you look at government revenue as a function of gross domestic product you will find that the tax rate is irrelevant. The government's piece of the economic pie is about 18%. If the government wants revenue then they need to grow the pie. The best way to do that is with a simple tax code at a low tax rate.
« Last post by Eric Bosworth on July 01, 2015, 11:51:09 AM »
Last I checked we had 8.33 inches of rain for the month of June. Lately it has been raining almost every day. The milkweed is starting to bloom and it would be real nice of the bees could get to it. I would be happy to send you some of our rain.
« Last post by Eric Bosworth on July 01, 2015, 11:48:36 AM »
I used to have a frame holder that hung on the side of the hive.  I never used it, so I sold it to someone else.  But that would work well for taking pictures of combs.
That was what I was thinking about getting.
GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Annual honey extraction....
« Last post by Eric Bosworth on July 01, 2015, 11:43:20 AM »
For crush and strain you could use a fruit press. For about $150 you could probably do 10 frames at a time pretty quickly. I have thought about doing that but then making a wax grinder to break up the wax so that the bees can easily rob what little honey is left. The other option is to just save it as comb honey.
GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Annual honey extraction....
« Last post by chux on July 01, 2015, 09:55:08 AM »
I crushed and strained some my first year. I also crush and strain cutouts. Right now I am borrowing an extractor from my mentor. In the future I plan on buying my own extractor. If you only have a couple of hives, you really don't need to own your own extractor in most cases. Borrow one if possible.
GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Annual honey extraction....
« Last post by chux on July 01, 2015, 09:52:00 AM »
divemaster1963, your extractor sounds good. I am the kind of person who wants to save a buck too. Several times I have tried to save a dollar by building my own product. Unfortunately, I am not as good at putting things together as you. I usually end up with a product that works almost as well as the real thing. And I usually have spent as much putting it together as I would have spent buying it new. I don't think I'll be building an extractor. I'll save up and buy one. Probably get one from a guy like you who built his own.
GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: wax yields of cut and drain
« Last post by chux on July 01, 2015, 09:43:03 AM »
I've not extracted honey from deeps. I use medium supers. I get around 35 pounds of honey out of nine medium frames. I use foundationless frames, and they do fine in an extractor as long as I am patient. A deep should yield somewhere around 60-70 pounds of honey. If you live in a region with a long season and multiple flows, it would pay to use an extractor. I extracted supers of spring honey in early June, then put the combs back on the hives. They will refill and cap with Cotton honey in July and early August. I will remove and extract again. Then I will put the supers back on the hive and let them fill up on the fall flow of golden-rod and aster, for the winter stores. If the fall flow is weak, I will save out some honey to feed back. If it is strong, I can sell that honey. If I have extra supers of comb at the end of the season, I can store them away until spring. When the flow starts, I can sit the comb on top of the hive, and they begin storing right away. This has the potential to greatly increase honey production. A smaller colony can use all the help they can get. Give them comb ready to go, and they get bigger a lot quicker.

Crush and strain would prevent me from getting the second harvest. The bees would burn through the cotton nectar, rebuilding comb. By giving them comb, I can get a second harvest and also let them build out more comb in a new super, which I can give to a needy hive. 

How much wax could you get off of that box, cutting it all out and melting it down? Not sure. It probably won't be as much as you think. I doubt it would be enough to offset the potential loss of honey.   

Smaller extractors can be pretty inexpensive now. Crush and strain for a couple of years, save your money, and buy one. You may decide you like crush and strain well enough. If not, you could find a friend, or make a new friend, who is also getting into bees, and go in together and share an extractor. Or see if your local club has an extractor. We just bought one for the club.   
NATURAL & ORGANIC BEEKEEPING METHODS / Re: opinions on treatment free beekieeping
« Last post by OldMech on July 01, 2015, 09:13:12 AM »
My point is that "treatment free" does not mean you don't manage your bees.  It doesn't mean you don't need to understand what is going on in your colonies.  But you need to know all of that whether you treat or not.

   Well said!!!  I agree with everything.... except this part....
 Treating is complicated, difficult and obviously failing.

   Why?  Treatment is simple, fast, easy and works like a dream without bothering the bees a bit...    Provided you use OAV...    :grin:
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