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Hi paus,

  My Neverwet strips have been on now for over two years and they are still working, it wouldn't be a bad idea to check the Neverwet coating every couple years to make sure its holding up or another indicator is when you start to notice hive beetles in your hive. I have found that the bees can only propolize cracks so fast and the polyethylene foam tape seals the hive 100% instantly and compensates for any warpage, poorly milled edges and joints.
THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: Silence is Golden
« Last post by beecanbee on May 22, 2017, 03:17:38 PM »
I`d liken SS to an insurance policy - neither an investment, nor a welfare system for the aged.  Those who pay in but die early loose, while those who live longer win - possibly even receiving more in value than they paid in.
« Last post by sawdstmakr on May 22, 2017, 12:39:52 PM »
I have one. I moved a 2 medium super hive into one. They just started to work in the honey section and then they super swarmed (swarmed 3 times) and moved back out of the honey super. I had to reduce the hive to a single medium and add a soft ball size of bees that were bearding up outside of my observation hive. As part of adding the ball of bees, I moved them to a friends yard, 10 miles away.
I just brought them home last night and I will be inspecting them tomorrow and hopefully they are ready for another brood box. I was given this hive by someone who could not get them to work the flow box.
From my observations with the bees in the observation hive, my bet is that that queen was not mated. Bees will some what ignore a virgin queen. Bees walk on virgin queens and Virgin queens walk on bees in an undisturbed hive. (This includes normal gentle handling of the frames during inspections.) Not so with a mated queen. Most of the times the mated queen has a retinue around her. Not so with a virgin queen. Talk to the seller.
« Last post by sawdstmakr on May 22, 2017, 12:05:11 PM »
I don't think you got the queen from the swarm you caught.  By now it is laying worker and IMO not worth keeping.  I would just dump the hive and use the equipment for a split of package.

I think the main concern here is re: the mated queen purchased for that swarm ... ?

Davers - Mated Queens are either received by a colony with 'open arms' or with aggression. Usually, it's immediate aggression followed by acceptance after a few days.

What's unusual here is the 'little attention' which was being shown to that Queen.  I've only ever seen a Mated Queen ignored just the once, and a very strange sight it was too - in my case it was a queen purchased at some expense (wouldn't you know ... ?) - and yeh, just try getting a refund.
She was met with total indifference - the support bees in the mailing cage received more interest than she did.  I eventually released her, to 'take her chances', but she was never seen again.  Hardly surprising.

These days, whenever I come across a weird situation, I like to get back to 'known conditions': is there a queen present ?; if so, in which box ?; is she laying ? - and so on.  I don't much like working with the 'maybe there's still a queen in there'-type scenario.

So - what I'd do in your situation is shake those bees out into another box, through a queen excluder, and if that queen is still there, then remove her.
Also - right now I'd check VERY carefully for the presence of eggs of laying workers, as that colony has been without brood for some time.  Murphy's Law says workers will start laying the very day before you introduce your frame of open larvae !

Then - on a nice sunny day - swift a frame of BIAS over to that (now confirmed queenless) colony.  If you can transport it in (say) an expanded polystyrene box, all the better.  Supplying warmth shouldn't be necessary in a warm vehicle on a warm day, but a damp towel or similar inside the box to maintain humidity would certainly be a good idea.
Good luck
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« Last post by Acebird on May 22, 2017, 10:46:31 AM »
so I say we cut their benefits now so their children don't suffer.

All we have to do is cut the ridiculous military spending and we can all have a yacht to retire in.  The yacht can be handed down so our children could trade it for a new one if they wanted to when they get of age.  Although if we stop killing and maiming our youth in these wars we will probably have too many to support.  We will have to create another government program ACC, Adult Child Care.
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« Last post by bwallace23350 on May 22, 2017, 10:02:04 AM »
Cost was leveled out in the fact that women now don't pay more for health insurance just because they are women. We leveled that cost off. Health insurance was going through the roof anyway and we were already on an unsustainable path. Glad you brought up medicaid and medicare. We should just expand those programs to cover everyone and have it come a long with a tax increase that will probably be less than what you were paying for insurance anyway so you will be taking home more money.
THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: Silence is Golden
« Last post by bwallace23350 on May 22, 2017, 09:59:26 AM »
SS is a tax not an investment.  What you put in went to your parents, who probable paid very little............... This is the most important thing you just said. The boomers, have not paid the full amount of the SS tax except since around 83 I believe. That is not all of their working life. Since at least the 90's we have known we are going to have a budget shortfall on SS but hte boomers never wanted to fully fund a system they plan on draining dry so I say we cut their benefits now so their children don't suffer.
THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: Silence is Golden
« Last post by bwallace23350 on May 22, 2017, 09:56:51 AM »
If I had invested the money I paid in, I would likely be much better off.

Most people could say the same.  SS is a tax not an investment.  What you put in went to your parents, who probable paid very little, war machines, bullets and bombs.  This continues today where the younger generation will pay for the older generation.  Can you see that changing?

The irony is most people cannot survive on SS mainly because health care costs consumes the benefit.  The biggest drain an any healthcare system is old people.  They are the non working unhealthy class.  Young people have very little need for healthcare as compared to old people.  The primary health care use for young people is either making babies or trying to prevent making babies.  A very minor cost compared to keeping an old person alive for the last few years of their life.

Now our government is actively selling war machines to the Saudi's.  The government doesn't make the machines some company does.  Did the Saudi's need the machines?  Did the american people ask the orange turd to do this?  This is another flaky deal that is going to cost us.  But nobody cares.  Ignorance is bliss.
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