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DOWN UNDER BEEKEEPING / Re: Winter Pack Down
« Last post by Beenic on Today at 05:59:50 PM »
Hi Lancej - thanks for the response.  Will look into it.
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Ask 9 beekeepers.
3 will say use them.
3 will say don't.
3 will say either/or.

And if you ask 10 ... one (this one) will say that if you intend using a queen excluder, consider using a  plywood Q/X - which has the advantage of not being bee-size-dependent; doesn't interfere very much with traffic flow; and doesn't damage wings ... and it's yet another piece of beekeeping kit you can make yourself for next to nothing.

Not recommended if you need to keep two queens apart, but ideal if you just want to keep the queen from entering a specific box.
LJ
LJ you don't get to just post a good idea like that without a pic or a link!!! :)  Some of us are trying to learn here.

Edit: I'm guessing the "plywood" option mentioned here. I also wonder about the fertilizer sack option, seems pretty smart if it works.
http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/excludertypes.html

Sorry mate ...   :oops:

Here's the one I made (yes - got the idea from that Dave Cushman page) - it worked perfectly - it's a method certainly worth trying-out if you have the need :
http://heretics-guide.site90.com/beek15a.htm  (2nd photo from top)

There's also some chat about 'soft' inner covers (we call 'em crown boards) at:
http://heretics-guide.site90.com/beek02.htm 
They may suit you ok - Mike Palmer happily uses them, as does Michael Bush - I'm not all that keen now that I've found a superb hard material to use instead.  But if I hadn't then I'd probably still be working on that method.

LJ
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I love them, and not just saying that to be contrary. That queen does not belong in the supers.
If you are in swarm season you can split the boxes with it and know where she is. You go in 10 days later you know everything in the top box is how old? You can find her without too much trouble and take your time / carefully finding her. So you have 2 deeps, 2 mediums-drop the top supers on the lid, the deep on top of that. Do a quick look for Queen cells, grab your now open frames to keep her working Put the QE on top of that box and sort slowly through the frames until you find her. Give her room and put it back together.
So no QE, what do you do? Gingerly tear down through 4 boxes trying to find the one with new eggs trying to see if there is QC? 40 frames.  Now it is time to pull honey- where is she? Again 40 frames. Now you have brood in your honey frames and honey in your brood frames? Maybe I have not been doing it long enough to ignore a patch of brood in my extracting frames. You let the bees clean up the wet boxes and now what do you do with honey frames that have had brood in them? Wax moth is generally looking for brood comb so if the queen is up in the supers you end up treating them rather than just tipping them up on edge and letting the air and light in.
I keep my chickens in the coop, cows in the pasture and queens in the brood nest.
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THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Terror Attack in London
« Last post by bwallace23350 on Today at 05:19:12 PM »
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39357930

Will update as more info is released.
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THE COFFEE HOUSE ((( SOCIAL - ROOM ))) / Re: Douglas Adams on Presidents
« Last post by KD4MOJ on Today at 04:33:32 PM »
I realized the other day that I've never known a president that hasn't lied to me.
Maybe Carter? I can't remember one from him.

There is a book I read (can't remember the title at the moment) written by a retired Secret Service agent and the section on Carter was mind blowing. Not what you thought you knew.... behind that big grin. :shocked:

...DOUG
KD4MOJ


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Goundhawg
I am new so take it for what it is worth.  You can check now cause if the swarm left the cells should be capped.  I think getting rid of all but two (preferably on the same comb and on the same side of the comb)  might help reduce the chance of an after swarm.  If you have other hives or a lot of brood frames in this one and want more hives, you might want to use the queen cells and make up a bunch of nucs. 

for the swarm in a tree 25 foot up, if you had a pole long enough or could throw a rope over the branch they are on, you might send a frame of open brood up and touch the swarm and it might move to cover the brood letting you hive it when you lower the brood comb.

Good luck
gww
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Ask 9 beekeepers.
3 will say use them.
3 will say don't.
3 will say either/or.

And if you ask 10 ... one (this one) will say that if you intend using a queen excluder, consider using a  plywood Q/X - which has the advantage of not being bee-size-dependent; doesn't interfere very much with traffic flow; and doesn't damage wings ... and it's yet another piece of beekeeping kit you can make yourself for next to nothing.

Not recommended if you need to keep two queens apart, but ideal if you just want to keep the queen from entering a specific box.
LJ
LJ you don't get to just post a good idea like that without a pic or a link!!! :)  Some of us are trying to learn here.

Edit: I'm guessing the "plywood" option mentioned here. I also wonder about the fertilizer sack option, seems pretty smart if it works.
http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/excludertypes.html
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Okay just had a hive swarm, what do I do next?

Had one of my hives swarm this morning, right now swarm is pitched in an oak tree about 25 feet right above my hive.  This was a second year queen and the hive was quite heavy.  Poor beekeeping on my part not to have known more and done more swarm control.  Have two swarm traps about 100 yards in different directions and might get lucky but have really ?written? these bees off.

So what do I do next with the hive they left from?  Should I wait and let them raise a new queen, or buy a queen ASAP and place in the hive, or something else?  If I check in a couple of days for queen cells and there are several how many should I leave?

Thanks for any help and information.
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History is written by the winners.
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Rurif....
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I overwintered ALL of my colonies this time.    A huge victory for me.

To the victor go the spoils, good for you.  I have read your post for awhile and you deserve praise on this.
Cheers
gww
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